You have a "hidden" problem with benthic you are not telling us.
I would understand if you were a PvP'er trying to have better gear than all the scrubs...but both Heroic and Mythic EP gear is better than benthic in PvP.
What excactly is your hidden reason?
Literally the only problem with this is that you wont feel the pleasure of an upgrade in 2 slots of gear. WoW....
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I absolutely dont need the special effects. I will never set foot inside a raid, much less EP.
And im not against removing the special effects in EP, if you so much desire that.
But i do want the gem sockets to gem with versatility.
Im stacking versatility stat to come up with a crazy spec for PvP im at 22% versatility atm
Not only that but also these essences and benthic gear makes you wonder what is an upgrade and what is not. World of Simcraft all the way. I really just liked simple stats.
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Sounds like someone didn't play in TBC. Hard for me to strawman anything when someone is strawmanning my post. The point flew above your head, because it had nothing to do what arkanon tried to argue, which again was the strawman. If you are going to be a clever smartass you gotta do better than that.
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While that would be great...I can't personally see myself enjoying it.
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A few points
1. The gear is simply bis in current raid and zone
2. The gear is pretty easy to obtain and simply playing the game will help with the upgrades
3. This and the new crafting gear now has some specs around 90% of max output
4. It's only negative is that it makes new gear irrelevant but you will still keep the gear because next tier
5. Only the tippy top players suffer a negative
nuke benthic
Originally Posted by Bigbazz
You're wrong.
It isn't 0.1% increase. It's closer to 2% increase in total performance per piece. You are not comparing against mythic 445 gear. You are comparing against 415 BoD gear. We are talking about the beginning of the raid and the gear you are suppose to have. It's even worse if you are a player who has 400 ilvl as most people do.
The gear that drops in heroic is vastly inferior, around 1% increase in total output per piece. This is unacceptable . Forget about mythic raiding because what they do has no bearing against the other 97% of the population. Bethalic gear is cancer because it makes all other forms of content obsolete. Why would someone raid when they could just farm the gear. Sure, we all like to raid but it has a drastic consequence for pug raiding. The number one reason to do it is loot. That's a fact. If the populace can find gear that is better elsewhere then pugs disapear. Bethalic gear can actually kill raiding.
I think that bethalic gear should never have had the flavour stats added on. It should have been on raid gear. The ilvl should have been lower. 410 is a good place. Better than lfr but not quite normal. The gear should have been spread over all new content.
Casuals deserve progression too but not at the expense of killing raiding.
People being so god damn cancerous kills people raiding but not benthic gear. A lot of people will still raid for all the other slots and to see the raid a few times.
The "i raid for the gear" argument makes no sense in this situation.
Because the Mythic/ Heroic EP gear is already better in every situation outside the raid. PvP, Mythic+ etc
And...if Benthic is BiS for EP...they already have the best gear possible? So why would they care?
The only explanation is because the raider wants to experience "progression" while raiding in EP. Such a minor thing imo
It's funny to me that people used to say that about vanilla dungeons, now classic beta ended and people moved on to TBC dungeons? HCs weren't hard, unless you was undergeared. I remember tanking half of them using only one hand, because of amount of downtime you had between packs with most healers, and how slowly things died if you didn't wanted to risk it, because of breaking CC one-by-one.
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
Most are going for 3 pieces because of being able to craft 440 socket gear after 2 mythic bosses. They use alts to farm pearls to buy the actual BoA gear for socket rolls, then 660 pearls on 1-2 characters isn't that impossible. Especially with emissaries giving 25 pearls.
How do you feel about BiS crafted gear and/or AH BoEs?
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Passives work only in a raid, if you go into M+ with those equipped you'll get laughed at. So i'm afraid that those players who yell "BiS!" will come to realization that their 425 piece is... just a 425 piece and useless outside of a raid compared to 455 piece or something. And you know what would be fun? No personal loot. Imagine spending fuckton of time to farm pearls only for decent bracers to drop and go away to someone else, because you already have your "BiS" item
Just like when i bought a BoE agi mace on my shaman in cata when baleroc decided to not drop the axe for half of a raid, and when it finally dropped it went to other dude...
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Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
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You also need your benthic item to roll a socket, i currently sit at 20 tokens spent just to get one crit damage boot and have no intent on continuing that gamble bullshit (haven't seen other pieces roll a socket either, on the other hand i've got two 415+ items from M+ with sockets), because it's not worth it.
Ignore baseline ranking, because it's a 415 bracer with +120int socket, off fucking course it's almost on top of the list
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
i have all my 4 pieces + alternative belt with sockets and ready to go. Getting them roll socket is super easy because you can feed dozens of rolls a day depending on how many alts you bother to do 2-3 WQs a day. I think most i used was for my belt(the dmg proc one) around 20 rolls. You get quite a bit from doing basic questline + pearl WQs.