Will N'zoth be a joke?

[Deathknightish]

He's, afaik, the weakest of the old gods, and we've defeated one with titan keeper help, and one by ourselves.

Unless he somehow resurrects the rest, won't he just become one big joke?

[Madkat124]

He's, afaik, the weakest of the old gods, and we've defeated one with titan keeper help, and one by ourselves.

Unless he somehow resurrects the rest, won't he just become one big joke?

From a lore standpoint, even though he might be the weakest, we've never fought a fully unleashed old god before. Based solely on that, he's going to be "stronger" than the other ones at the time. They all gave titans a hard time, so to say any of them are "weak" is underselling them.

That said, I can see Blizzard making him a joke with some cringey dialogue and being killed in one raid.

[ReVnX]

We have never fought an unchained Old God.

Period.

[Eazy]

Which boss wasn't a joke? I mean like seriously?

[Super Dickmann]

He's doomed because he's shunted off to die one patch after being freed.

Logically though he should curbstomp us as he's a fully freed old god, and they're continent-sized monsters. The others were all chained up.

[TheFirstOnes]

We have never fought an unchained Old God.

Period.

We fought Argus the Unmaker though (As well as an Argus who got empowered by Sargeras himself). Already defeats the purpose of an Old Gods' power.

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N'zoth will be a joke as much as they made Sargeras a joke. Actually, no, I can't say that, cause Sargeras became the closest to winning in this damn game.

[TheFirstOnes]

He's doomed because he's shunted off to die one patch after being freed.

Logically though he should curbstomp us as he's a fully freed old god, and they're continent-sized monsters. The others were all chained up.

Also, logically, we should never have faced off guys like Kil'jaeden, Archimonde, Aggramar, the Legion at their full might, Queen Azshara, nor Argus the Unmaker (ESPECIALLY ARGUS) with ease either. But, we did. And about 4/5ths of the people I said there could likely curbstomp N'zoth.

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From a lore standpoint, even though he might be the weakest, we've never fought a fully unleashed old god before. Based solely on that, he's going to be "stronger" than the other ones at the time. They all gave titans a hard time, so to say any of them are "weak" is underselling them.

That said, I can see Blizzard making him a joke with some cringey dialogue and being killed in one raid.

Again, this is doomed logic, since we fought guys like Kil'jaeden, Aggramar's Avatar, and Argus the Unmaker.

[Mic_128]

They all gave titans a hard time, so to say any of them are "weak" is underselling them.

Actually, the Titans could easily destroy them - see Y'Shaarj. Aman'Thul simply grabbed him and tore him from the planet. That said, the fallout was a massive wound to Azeroth, hence why they continued to use their Keepers to wage war on the Old Gods.

I'm hoping that the raid where we deal with him involves us crawling around his innards, destroying his organs, much the same way we destroyed the other two Old Gods by going inside them (Yogg, the brain. C'thun, the stomach)

[ReVnX]

We fought Argus the Unmaker though (As well as an Argus who got empowered by Sargeras himself). Already defeats the purpose of an Old Gods' power.

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N'zoth will be a joke as much as they made Sargeras a joke. Actually, no, I can't say that, cause Sargeras became the closest to winning in this damn game.

With the power of all the reborn Titans.

We can just fight the Old God with the help of a lesser being, that would explain it lorewise. Mostly because without any help lorewise our characters would be like ants to most of the baddies we have killed

[Super Dickmann]

Also, logically, we should never have faced off guys like Kil'jaeden, Archimonde, Aggramar, the Legion at their full might, Queen Azshara, nor Argus the Unmaker (ESPECIALLY ARGUS) with ease either. But, we did. And about 4/5ths of the people I said there could likely curbstomp N'zoth.

I agree that we shouldn't have fought any of those, especially the titans, but disagree with the argument. No one here is on the same level as N'zoth except possibly Argus. Again, the dude is a continent sized tumor. Aggrammar was an avatar, Azshara was a minion to N'zoth, so nowhere near his league and KJ and Archi were at about his level.

As for the Legion in general though, yeah, winning against the Legion was patently ridiculous, they should've glassed this planet with ease.

[Shampro]

So far all the ''big bads that are supposely oh so scary'' are just a joke or pushovers in WoW. KJ, Azshara, Old Gods, Gul'dan was decent but he never did actual long lasting damage aside from killing a dude. Deathwing was the only one that did actual massive long lasting damage that still reels the world to this day. Sylvanas has made a bunch of em' look like chumps and that's hilarious.

Azshara is specially sad, I expected some massive tidal wave that screwed up a bunch of places screwing people over, but she just sat there so her tentacle daddy hopefully saved her at the last second.

[Kiri]

Blizzard guide to big bads: make them night unstoppable the first few times we see them, then have them do something incredibly stupid so players can beat them. Like grooming them into becoming strong enough to become a threat and influence the ghost in your blade, not just burning them all to death while they prepare their super weapon that you know of. Or keeping around the souls of the only beings that can pose a threat to you - and even letting one escape and put in less than a token effort to recapture her - because they might be a useful weapon to you one day, even though you could just curb stomp everything yourself.

N'Zoth too will toss us around for a bit, then give us a weakpoint to hit in a contrived battle.

[Aucald]

I am unsure when "beatable" came to be translated into "weak" in the context of a video game. No, I don't N'Zoth will be a joke, but I do think we'll ultimately defeat him one way or another - because this is a video game and that's kind of what we do. Then one of a few things could happen: the dawn of another day on Azeroth without the Old Gods hanging over us like a pall, or perhaps his own death works into greater plan. All depends on how they want to play it.

[matrix123mko]

We fought Argus the Unmaker though (As well as an Argus who got empowered by Sargeras himself). Already defeats the purpose of an Old Gods' power.

To be honest, we had more titans on our side.

[exsanguinate]

Which boss wasn't a joke? I mean like seriously?

KJ Mythic and Ragnaros 25 Heroic

[Sangris]

KJ Mythic and Ragnaros 25 Heroic

Gameplay != lore

Lorewise most bosses have been a joke.

[Black Goat]

Which boss wasn't a joke? I mean like seriously?

Difficulty wise? Mythic Kil'jaeden.

[tromage2]

He's, afaik, the weakest of the old gods, and we've defeated one with titan keeper help, and one by ourselves.

Unless he somehow resurrects the rest, won't he just become one big joke?

Well all old gods are actually a planet sized bacteria for titans.
So i wonder what N'zoth can do against us.

The biggest threat from them is their army of beings impacted by the old god, like Naga or beings that got their minds twisted (deathwing).

[Raetary]

We fought Argus the Unmaker though (As well as an Argus who got empowered by Sargeras himself). Already defeats the purpose of an Old Gods' power

With the help of the Pantheon and the power from out weapons.

Hell, we would've LOST in that fight if it wasn't for Eonar resurrecting us.

[TheFirstOnes]

With the help of the Pantheon and the power from out weapons.

Hell, we would've LOST in that fight if it wasn't for Eonar resurrecting us.

I know, I know. But still, it kinda makes the threat of an Old God...not at all threatening? It's just weird. And besides, Sargeras was also buffing Argus throughout the fight as well, giving him skin, his own powers, a mask that represents a fully working skull and all, and so forth.

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To be honest, we had more titans on our side.

And to be honest, Sargeras killed them all by himself. Pretty fair trade, to be honest.

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I agree that we shouldn't have fought any of those, especially the titans, but disagree with the argument. No one here is on the same level as N'zoth except possibly Argus. Again, the dude is a continent sized tumor. Aggrammar was an avatar, Azshara was a minion to N'zoth, so nowhere near his league and KJ and Archi were at about his level.

As for the Legion in general though, yeah, winning against the Legion was patently ridiculous, they should've glassed this planet with ease.

Aggramar was an Avatar, yeah, but he was also apart of Sargeras' Dark Pantheon and should be on a level that basically dwarfs Kil'jaeden himself. And, in my opinion, I think KJ and Archimonde are far above current Azshara in power. Like, I get it, Azshara was pretty OP during the WoTA, and she's empowered by N'zoth and all, but Archimonde and KJ have a lot of feats of power and knowledge toward them.

As for everything else, yeah, the Legion during 7.0 alone should've just glassed the entire planet. But, we needed the Player clout. So, woo? -_-

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So far all the ''big bads that are supposely oh so scary'' are just a joke or pushovers in WoW. KJ, Azshara, Old Gods, Gul'dan was decent but he never did actual long lasting damage aside from killing a dude. Deathwing was the only one that did actual massive long lasting damage that still reels the world to this day. Sylvanas has made a bunch of em' look like chumps and that's hilarious.

Azshara is specially sad, I expected some massive tidal wave that screwed up a bunch of places screwing people over, but she just sat there so her tentacle daddy hopefully saved her at the last second.

Sylvanas is a plot device. The Legion, and Sargeras was a far greater, long lasting affect on Azeroth than anyone else in WoW.