John Bel Edwards, Democrat, re-elected governor of Louisina in run-off election

[Fugus]

Ultimately my perspective may be skewed as I'm not American (Canadian), and I'm only a few years older. But I've felt that Bubba was really the last of the "more right leaning" people, and that was more him towing the line on what was en vogue culturally at the time. The party re-invented itself a bit as the tea party gained prominence on the right by moving left. Not as far as Sanders, Warren or the Squad, but definitely embraced more hot topic social issues like taking a firmer stance on women's rights as well as LGBQT issues.

Now, I do think there's a divide when it comes to fiscal conservatism in the Democratic party. That's been slower to move to the left, which is why people like Sanders stand out.

I personally live in North Carolina, from the days of Bill Clinton, through Bush, and Obama, they all were more in line with Biden then the actual left. As time went on, socially they were dragged kicking and screaming to the left in terms of gay rights and stuff but economically they have gone further and further to the right.

Sanders was the first actual pull to the left the party actually has had that wasn't shrugged off. The main reason why they didn't mind him in 2016 was because they thought he was a joke and a token opponent for Hillary. Once he actually gained traction and they saw where their base actually was, they fought tooth and nail and he is the only reason why we have the ones we do now. The DNC largely thought the left was just a fringe they placated for votes not realizing just how much of their voters it actually was. Now they fight them.

[Masark]

It isn't that the Democrats were further left, it is that the Republicans went further right and turned into a parody of themselves making the already right leaning Democrats look left by comparison.

[Fugus]

Pretty much, except Obama needs to take another step or two forward to be more accurate.

[Zaydin]

Pretty much, except Obama needs to take another step or two forward to be more accurate.

That was my biggest gripe about Obama. He kept desperately trying to reach out to Republicans to get them work with him even after they repeatedly spat in his face.

I can understand that he felt getting things done in a bipartisan manner would grant legislation more legitimacy but his election utterly broke the GOP. Losing to him twice drove them insane and lead to the infection that had lain dormant among the American right wing for decades to erupt into what ultimately manifested as Trump. Trump isn't the cause of the sickness plaguing the GOP; he's just another symptom of it.

[Fugus]

That was my biggest gripe about Obama. He kept desperately trying to reach out to Republicans to get them work with him even after they repeatedly spat in his face.

I can understand that he felt getting things done in a bipartisan manner would grant legislation more legitimacy but his election utterly broke the GOP. Losing to him twice drove them insane and lead to the infection that had lain dormant among the American right wing for decades to erupt into what ultimately manifested as Trump. Trump isn't the cause of the sickness plaguing the GOP; he's just another symptom of it.

For me, Trump didn't corrupt the Republican party, he revealed it.

[Skroe]

Everything Trump Touches Dies.

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Also local Trump grifter Hugh Hewitt tweeting about Iran (for some reason) and God.

But not the election.

That Trump traveled to help Republicans in three times.

And still badly lost.

[Dsonsion]

Congrats to Edward. A good win for the democrats. And this is the example of how you can beat Trump....Democrats who argue that nominating a moderate presidential candidate is the best approach to beat Trump are certain to point to Louisiana's race as bolstering their case. Edwards, a U.S. Military Academy graduate and former Army Ranger, opposes gun restrictions, signed one of the nation's strictest abortion bans and dismissed the ongoing impeachment inquiry against the president as a distraction.

So, as long as you leave behind any of the principles you stand by, you can make your party get into power, desirable policies be damned?

[D Luniz]

Pretty much, except Obama needs to take another step or two forward to be more accurate.

forgot the republican screaming "anti-colonial kenyan socialist" before doing it

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For me, Trump didn't corrupt the Republican party, he revealed it.

they sort of admit that with the refrain of "I just wish he'd stop talking"

when your ONLY complaint is "they are saying the quiet part loud", you cant get to act like you actually dont like them in office
(not refering to you Fugus, the your and you is for the gop water carriers)

[PACOX]

Alright boys, whats our excuse here?

The Republican challegner was a loser who never had a chance?

Trump brought up but could only do so much?

The Democrats bused in millions of illegals?

We couldn't find enough Russians votes in time because Boomers are used to voting on Tuesday?

Everyone was distracted by impeachment?

I to spam a twitch chatroom and trade in WoW in 12 hours and need my talking points straight.

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So, does he run as Democrat because he's not far right enough for Republicans or because he wants to avoid Republican primaries?

To be fair, the Democrats have been in the middle to slightly right until a few years ago. Obama was considered pretty left when actually he barely leaves center. Its no surprise that theres still a lot of moderate Dems out there, especially in the South.

What is it? Fiscally conseravative, socially left or vice versa?

[arandomuser]

republican closely ahead in polls
(trump holds rally right before election)
Repulican loses where as other republicans win
trump: THEY ALMOST WON BECAUSE OF MY SUPPORT!

lol

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So what you're saying is that you feel the best example of how Democrats can beat Trump is to run on Republican platforms? Because those sure as hell are not moderate positions unless you're starting waaaaay the fuck to the right.

If their districts hold conservative views, I dont even think about liberal/conservative anymore, i think of russian alligned criminal/not russian aligned criminal, the overton window has shifted so much that john mccain and mitt romney and george bush sr are now considered "SJW liberal globalist" Ill gladly accept any ally with different views than mine, and this is where i really get mad at the far left bernie or bust types they rather have ideological purity then focus on winning election

[Bakis]

Congrats to Edward. A good win for the democrats. And this is the example of how you can beat Trump....Democrats who argue that nominating a moderate presidential candidate is the best approach to beat Trump are certain to point to Louisiana's race as bolstering their case. Edwards, a U.S. Military Academy graduate and former Army Ranger, opposes gun restrictions, signed one of the nation's strictest abortion bans and dismissed the ongoing impeachment inquiry against the president as a distraction

Louisiana is hardly considered a state of moderates and its also not a state that matter much in the presidential election.
It's also dodgy to know where to put Edward. His abortion stance(an extreme position to advocate) and visiting Trump etc. is not moderate then again he could simply be doing what has to be done to win, after all he had no problem dissing the president in his victory speech did he.

Bottom line of the win, 2/3 GOP candidates that staked their win on North Korean worship of Trump lost in states heavily favoring GOP historically.

[Ghostpanther]

So what you're saying is that you feel the best example of how Democrats can beat Trump is to run on Republican platforms? Because those sure as hell are not moderate positions unless you're starting waaaaay the fuck to the right.

I think being radically too far left is a good way to lose to Trump. Edwards was a good candidate. Might also explain why Pete Buttligieg is leading now in the polls for Iowa primary.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/but...test-iowa-poll

Buttigieg for many seems to offer a more moderate approach than the radical policy proposals of Warren and Sanders, and unlike Biden, he does not have to fight many concerns about his age or past voting record. Among Iowa caucusgoers, 63 percent say Buttigieg's views are about right, while only seven percent say they are too liberal and 13 percent say they are too conservative.

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republican closely ahead in polls
(trump holds rally right before election)
Repulican loses where as other republicans win
trump: THEY ALMOST WON BECAUSE OF MY SUPPORT!

lol

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Last poll I saw, was Edwards leading by 2%. Which is close to how it turned out. Also, hard to beat a incumbent Governor who is not unpopular.

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Louisiana is hardly considered a state of moderates and its also not a state that matter much in the presidential election.
It's also dodgy to know where to put Edward. His abortion stance(an extreme position to advocate) and visiting Trump etc. is not moderate then again he could simply be doing what has to be done to win, after all he had no problem dissing the president in his victory speech did he.

Bottom line of the win, 2/3 GOP candidates that staked their win on North Korean worship of Trump lost in states heavily favoring GOP historically.

True, that is how it has turned out in the last 3 governor elections. But earlier this year, both GOP US House Representative candidates won their special election in North Carolina that Trump endorsed. Odd I never saw any thread on here about those wins.

[Bakis]

True, that is how it has turned out in the last 3 governor elections. But earlier this year, both GOP US House Representative candidates won their special election in North Carolina that Trump endorsed. Odd I never saw any thread on here about those wins.

Me too to be honest, the Trump sycophants on this forum got so few events to celebrate that one could have expected at least 3 threads about it.

[Ghostpanther]

Me too to be honest, the Trump sycophants on this forum got so few events to celebrate that one could have expected at least 3 threads about it.

Lol! They do not need to. The impeachment fiasco has given many of them reasons to cheer. But that is another topic best for the mega thread.

[Toppy]

I think being radically too far left is a good way to lose to Trump. Edwards was a good candidate. Might also explain why Pete Buttligieg is leading now in the polls for Iowa primary.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/but...test-iowa-poll

Buttigieg for many seems to offer a more moderate approach than the radical policy proposals of Warren and Sanders, and unlike Biden, he does not have to fight many concerns about his age or past voting record. Among Iowa caucusgoers, 63 percent say Buttigieg's views are about right, while only seven percent say they are too liberal and 13 percent say they are too conservative.

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Last poll I saw, was Edwards leading by 2%. Which is close to how it turned out. Also, hard to beat a incumbent Governor who is not unpopular.

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True, that is how it has turned out in the last 3 governor elections. But earlier this year, both GOP US House Representative candidates won their special election in North Carolina that Trump endorsed. Odd I never saw any thread on here about those wins.

You could have made such a thread you know.

[ipaq]

Winning by ~1.4% against a member of a party known to be everything "evil" is still losing.

Won by about 1.4 percent over his Republican challenger after failing to secure 50% of the vote in the first vote last month.

Not going to lie, I was expecting Governor Edwards to lose since it's Louisiana, but I guess the combination of Trump and the lingering legacy of Bobby Jindal is still hurting Republicans in Louisiana.

Trump can't seem to stop losing as of late, can he?

[Draco-Onis]

Me too to be honest, the Trump sycophants on this forum got so few events to celebrate that one could have expected at least 3 threads about it.

I think it says a lot that republicans now want to celebrate winning North Carolina and Mississippi that's like democrats celebrating for winning New York and California.

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Winning by ~1.4% against a member of a party known to be everything "evil" is still losing.

Isn't that the same thing republicans say about democrats?

[Benggaul]

To be fair, calling this a Democratic win is almost silly. Edwards basically ran on a Republican platform. He is not a moderate democrat by any stretch of the imagination. He's very much a 90's era Republican.

Yes, but given that it's Deep South Louisiana we're talking about I think a "90's era Republican" is leagues better than current-day GOP. I could respect Republicans back in the 90's even though I disagreed with them. The current GOP? Fuck the lot of them.

[jellmoo]

Yes, but given that it's Deep South Louisiana we're talking about I think a "90's era Republican" is leagues better than current-day GOP. I could respect Republicans back in the 90's even though I disagreed with them. The current GOP? Fuck the lot of them.

Oh, I don't disagree. Just making a point in regards to the current mindset of a lot the farther left Democrats.

[Skroe]

Just to confirm, as of right now Trump's internet grifter lapdogs are talking about a minor protest in Iran, not Louisiana.

*hilarious*.