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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    I doubt ANY of the rich elites care about America.
    Then why the avatar?

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Then why the avatar?
    Because it's the opposite element to the insanity of the far-left.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    Because it's the opposite element to the insanity of the far-left.
    There is no far left in Murica. You've been fed a lie. Which is no surprise based on your arguments here.

    Yes, Bill Maher is a piece of shit and his pining for a recession to look Trump bad is equally shitty. What's your point? Let me save you some time - some weak ass whataboutism to justify other stuff, right?

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    Because it's the opposite element to the insanity of the far-left.
    So the far left is the opposite of racist, selfish, dumb, angry, and dangerous to our economic, domestic, and foreign policy?

    That’s a weird flex.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    So the far left is the opposite of racist, selfish, dumb, angry, and dangerous to our economic, domestic, and foreign policy?

    That’s a weird flex.
    Orange man bad. CNN speaks the ultimate truth. Twitter represents society as a whole.

    Are any of these statements wrong?

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    Orange man bad. CNN speaks the ultimate truth. Twitter represents society as a whole.

    Are any of these statements wrong?
    Right. Wrong. Wrong.

    Next?

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by tyrlaan View Post
    Right. Wrong. Wrong.

    Next?
    *Social media platforms should be allowed to censor anyone, at any moment, and for any reason whatsoever.
    *Private companies such as banks and credit card companies should be allowed to cancel services and withhold funds from any customer, based on things they said on social media, or their general attitude unrelated to the company.
    *Only police and military personnel should be allowed to own guns.
    *Movies, video games, and art in general should be diverse and inclusive at any costs, even when it doesn't make sense.
    *White people should pay higher taxes because they are privileged.
    *People of color should pay lower taxes because they are underprivileged.
    *Learning institutions should have lower standards for people of color, than for white people and Asians. This includes admissions and exams.
    *Globalism should be enforced at any costs, even if it means the violent clash of cultures that are incompatible with one another.
    *There should be no national borders, and people from underdeveloped regions of the planet should be accepted in any number whatsoever, even if they become a massive drain on a country's economy.
    *Freedom of speech should be restricted as to not offend anyone at all, and that includes companies.
    *Voting rights should only be available to wealthy individuals and college graduates, because only they can make an informed choice.

    I would have had some more but that spills into "forbidden topics".
    THIS is the Far-left. THIS is what Trump opposes.

    So which ones are wrong?
    Last edited by The Butt Witch; 2019-12-23 at 02:56 PM.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Social media platforms should be allowed to censor anyone, at any moment, and for any reason whatsoever.
    It's called Terms of Service. Not for "any reason whatsoever", but for reasons that violate their ToS. Sounds like you've gobbled up a strawman and regurgitated it.

    Also, isn't your tribe supposed to be all about company rights and less government? You should be 100% on board with what you wrote actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Private companies such as banks and credit card companies should be allowed to cancel services and withhold funds from any customer, based on things they said on social media, or their general attitude unrelated to the company.
    Sure, why not? Companies get to decide who they want to do business with. Exception would be protected classes, which I'm sure you completely support. In case the term "protected class" is not clear, this refers to race, religion, sex, age, pregnancy, familial status, veterans, and people with disabilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Only police and military personnel should be allowed to own guns.
    I wouldn't be opposed to this, but also don't think it's necessary to solve our gun violence issue. But banning guns isn't far left anyway. Guns aren't a left/right issue, they're just built up to be like that thanks to the NRA's marriage to the GOP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Movies, video games, and art in general should be diverse and inclusive at any costs, even when it doesn't make sense.
    Lol wtf nonsense is this? Movies and video games incorporate diversity and inclusiveness because its a financially smart move for them. You're one of those people that thinks things like diversity and inclusiveness are liberal conspiracies, aren't you? The reality is its a numbers game. Companies do things to make money. Period. As a card carrying Trump supporter, you really should know this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *White people should pay higher taxes because they are privileged.
    Literally no one is saying this. This is the strawman's strawman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *People of color should pay lower taxes because they are underprivileged.
    See previous statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Learning institutions should have lower standards for people of color, than for white people and Asians. This includes admissions and exams.
    Can you just stop with these bullshit strawmen and say something along the lines of "the 'far-left' are people that aren't racist and I have a problem with that"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Globalism should be enforced at any costs, even if it means the violent clash of cultures that are incompatible with one another.
    LOL - again this is just the way things are going to move because companies like to make money. Globalism is coming whether you like it or not. You're strawmen would be cute if they weren't so tired and propped up by serious ignorance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *There should be no national borders, and people from underdeveloped regions of the planet should be accepted in any number whatsoever, even if they become a massive drain on a country's economy.
    Except for the fact that data shows immigrants are a significant BOON to our economy. Your premise is flawed. Shocking, I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Freedom of speech should be restricted as to not offend anyone at all, and that includes companies.
    Strawman strawman strawman.

    Yawn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Voting rights should only be available to wealthy individuals and college graduates, because only they can make an informed choice.
    You know this is closer to a core ethos of the GOP than anything else, right?

    --

    But back on topic - you want us to think that a radio host hoping for a school shooting isn't bad because Bill Maher is a dick. Classic whataboutism. You have no argument.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Social media platforms should be allowed to censor anyone, at any moment, and for any reason whatsoever.
    *Private companies such as banks and credit card companies should be allowed to cancel services and withhold funds from any customer, based on things they said on social media, or their general attitude unrelated to the company.
    *Only police and military personnel should be allowed to own guns.
    *Movies, video games, and art in general should be diverse and inclusive at any costs, even when it doesn't make sense.
    *White people should pay higher taxes because they are privileged.
    *People of color should pay lower taxes because they are underprivileged.
    *Learning institutions should have lower standards for people of color, than for white people and Asians. This includes admissions and exams.
    *Globalism should be enforced at any costs, even if it means the violent clash of cultures that are incompatible with one another.
    *There should be no national borders, and people from underdeveloped regions of the planet should be accepted in any number whatsoever, even if they become a massive drain on a country's economy.
    *Freedom of speech should be restricted as to not offend anyone at all, and that includes companies.
    *Voting rights should only be available to wealthy individuals and college graduates, because only they can make an informed choice.

    I would have had some more but that spills into "forbidden topics".
    THIS is the Far-left. THIS is what Trump opposes.

    So which ones are wrong?
    You are right.

    I forgot gullible and uninformed.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    You are right.

    I forgot gullible and uninformed.
    Orange man bad, bro. That's all you guys know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Social media platforms should be allowed to censor anyone, at any moment, and for any reason whatsoever.
    *Private companies such as banks and credit card companies should be allowed to cancel services and withhold funds from any customer, based on things they said on social media, or their general attitude unrelated to the company.
    The one exception would be if the reason were membership in a protected class.

    "Racist dickbag" is not a protected class.

    Outside of protected classes, this is pretty clearly how things should work; companies and people are free to pick whom they do business with.

    *Only police and military personnel should be allowed to own guns.
    *Movies, video games, and art in general should be diverse and inclusive at any costs, even when it doesn't make sense.
    *White people should pay higher taxes because they are privileged.
    *People of color should pay lower taxes because they are underprivileged.
    *Learning institutions should have lower standards for people of color, than for white people and Asians. This includes admissions and exams.
    This is all complete nonsense that nobody serious actually argues.

    *Globalism should be enforced at any costs, even if it means the violent clash of cultures that are incompatible with one another.
    "Culture clash" is just an attempt to hide racist views. There is no necessary clash between cultural groups. None. Just racists in either group who are intolerant towards other cultures.

    Also, globalism is capitalism. Nationalist economics is mercantilism, and is exactly what capitalism argued against. It's frakkin' weird that supposed capitalists are becoming so anti-capitalist.

    *There should be no national borders, and people from underdeveloped regions of the planet should be accepted in any number whatsoever, even if they become a massive drain on a country's economy.
    Again, not something anyone's actually arguing.

    *Freedom of speech should be restricted as to not offend anyone at all, and that includes companies.
    Left-wingers are protecting freedom of speech. It's folks on your side attacking social media companies and the like. As you did, starting this post, I'll note.

    *Voting rights should only be available to wealthy individuals and college graduates, because only they can make an informed choice.
    Again, not something really being argued by anyone serious.

    So which ones are wrong?
    As described above, every single one of them, for various reasons.


  12. #72
    "your side this", "your side that". and at the same time denying they are fueling the divide in society.

    Ricky Gervais: hate speech is the invention of those who ‘feel they shouldn’t have to hear something they don’t agree with, and want to complain'. This website is full of them.

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    *Social media platforms should be allowed to censor anyone, at any moment, and for any reason whatsoever.
    *Private companies such as banks and credit card companies should be allowed to cancel services and withhold funds from any customer, based on things they said on social media, or their general attitude unrelated to the company.
    *Only police and military personnel should be allowed to own guns.
    *Movies, video games, and art in general should be diverse and inclusive at any costs, even when it doesn't make sense.
    *White people should pay higher taxes because they are privileged.
    *People of color should pay lower taxes because they are underprivileged.
    *Learning institutions should have lower standards for people of color, than for white people and Asians. This includes admissions and exams.
    *Globalism should be enforced at any costs, even if it means the violent clash of cultures that are incompatible with one another.
    *There should be no national borders, and people from underdeveloped regions of the planet should be accepted in any number whatsoever, even if they become a massive drain on a country's economy.
    *Freedom of speech should be restricted as to not offend anyone at all, and that includes companies.
    *Voting rights should only be available to wealthy individuals and college graduates, because only they can make an informed choice.

    I would have had some more but that spills into "forbidden topics".
    THIS is the Far-left. THIS is what Trump opposes.

    So which ones are wrong?
    1) yes, they should That's what freedom and capitalism are all about.
    2) Yes, they should be able to refuse business to racists and fascists.
    3) Nope, not by a long shot. Fun fact, Trump has restricted gun rights more than Obama ever did as President.
    4) Movies should be made however the fuck the movie makers wishes to make it.
    5) No, this is a stupid concept.
    6) This is also a stupid concept.
    (Addendum, it is also no different than the Electoral College. So, if you support the EC, then you are no different than those "leftists" you point to).
    7) This is also a stupid concept. Standards are just that, as is equality. Of course, it should be up to the private institution.
    8) Globalism does not need to be enforced at all, you are the authoritarian who is attacking freedom. Globalism is simply capitalism and freedom at work.
    9) Sounds like a hell of a plan, stop trying to push national socialism.
    10) people like you are the ones fighting against freedom of speech. If you don't like how a company operates, take your business elsewhere.
    11)I don't know of anyone who calls for this bullshit.

    Most of what you are saying is nothing more than pulling things out of your butt, and building straw man... all to push national socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    "your side this", "your side that". and at the same time denying they are fueling the divide in society.

    Ricky Gervais: hate speech is the invention of those who ‘feel they shouldn’t have to hear something they don’t agree with, and want to complain'. This website is full of them.
    This website is private property, they are free to ban speech they don't want.

    It does not impact your freedom of speech at all.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    This website is private property, they are free to ban speech they don't want.

    It does not impact your freedom of speech at all.
    Tell me where in that post I was talking about banning free speech or any impact on my freedom of speech?

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    Tell me where in that post I was talking about banning free speech or any impact on my freedom of speech?
    Please point out in my post where I said you stated it.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Please point out in my post where I said you stated it.
    Please answer the question. Thank you!

    Since you can't, you are just replying to get your post count up.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    Please answer the question. Thank you!

    Since you can't, you are just replying to get your post count up.
    You are seemingly asking a question built on a straw man, so it makes no sense. Why am I in any way obligated to answer a question that is not based on an argument I am making?

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You are seemingly asking a question built on a straw man, so it makes no sense. Why am I in any way obligated to answer a question that is not based on an argument I am making?
    Why are you quoting my post with things that have nothing to do with my post. Secondly, if you use YOU in a reply, it's common you mean the poster. Seems you got again caught pressing that Reply-button too quickly...

    Reported for sea-lioning

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    Why are you quoting my post with things that have nothing to do with my post. Secondly, if you use YOU in a reply, it's common you mean the poster. Seems you got again caught pressing that Reply-button too quickly...
    Nah, I'm good... you seem confused.

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