Mega-Thread: Impeachment Proceedings & Inquiry of Trump

[Templar 331]

Does that mean that Hillary is guilty because she refused to hand over her emails?

Gonna need a citation on that.

[Stormspellz]

Does that mean that Hillary is guilty because she refused to hand over her emails?

she did hand over her emails, all the emails she was required to do, and the fact NOT A SINGLE FUCKING EMAIL has "popped" up that was supposedly kept for record keeping but wasn't, when it would a mushroom cloud smoking gun for republicans to salivate over justification to string another decade of investigations into Hillary, Obama, and Democrats is rather telling.

[For_The_Horde]

In case anyone was still wondering if Trump was guilty regarding the Ukraine Bribery & Extortion, here is Trump's White House refusing to release documents from a court order - all emails related to Ukraine aid withholding.

Refusing to cooperate is a key sign of guilt.

Its kind of funny (in a mundane kind of way at this point) that Trump refuses to testify, refuses to let anyone else testify, refuses to release any emails or documents, and still manages to complain that his side isn't being heard.

Does that mean that Hillary is guilty because she refused to hand over her emails?

This isn't a thread about Hillary, so don't try to derail the thread with irrelevant debunked conspiracy bullshit. I don't care if it comes from fox or breitbart or the president's own fat lying face. Wherever you get your propaganda these days , its blatant falsehood and a poor deflection for the obvious crimes he's committed, and is committing.

[Dontrike]

According to GOP it was being rammed through too fast, now it's too slow?

First it was too slow, then it was too fast, now it's too slow again. Hell, posters on here were saying how slow it was before the vote to impeach. You can go through these very forums and see the speed is always an issue for them.

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In case anyone was still wondering if Trump was guilty regarding the Ukraine Bribery & Extortion, here is Trump's White House refusing to release documents from a court order - all emails related to Ukraine aid withholding.

Refusing to cooperate is a key sign of guilt.

Clearly a sign of innocence.

Does that mean that Hillary is guilty because she refused to hand over her emails?

Congratulations, you are now up for best whataboutism of 2020 already. Hillary has nothing to do with this, but nice try.

[starlord]

repubs are starting to get antsy;

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey O. Graham suggested Sunday that Republicans should try to change Senate rules governing impeachment if House Speaker Nancy Pelosi continues to withhold the charges against President Trump — an unlikely 11th-hour bid to begin a trial within days without the actual documents.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was unequivocal in a Senate floor speech on Friday that “we can’t hold a trial without the articles; the Senate’s own rules don’t provide for that.” But Graham (R-S.C.), a close ally of Trump, floated the idea of a unilateral GOP move, saying he would work with McConnell to allow the Senate to proceed without the two charges against Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

https://apple.news/A6jKykwXeTMSQvi8C1zlYGw

[Polyxo]

repubs are starting to get antsy;



https://apple.news/A6jKykwXeTMSQvi8C1zlYGw

I'm not sure they'd have 51 votes for that rule change.

[Dontrike]

repubs are starting to get antsy;



https://apple.news/A6jKykwXeTMSQvi8C1zlYGw

How do you have a trial without charges? This really shows that Republicans are trying to rush through it, and that they have nothing going for them here.

[Stormspellz]

How do you have a trial without charges? This really shows that Republicans are trying to rush through it, and that they have nothing going for them here.

"We hereby clear our lord and savior Trump of all possible charges."

[s_bushido]

How do you have a trial without charges?

It's easy when you've already reached a verdict before the investigation even began.

[Dontrike]

It's easy when you've already reached a verdict before the investigation even began.

Very true, they must have already talked to every witness and seen the perfect transcript to know everything is alright, that must be why no one can testify or the transcript can't come out.

[Blur4stuff]

I can't wait for Graham to be exposed. It's a close second behind Trump being out of office and held responsible for his crimes. Well, top five at least.

[Belize]

Everyone already knows he’s gay, if he just came out of the closet life would be easier.

I don't think him being gay is really the problem, more than the rumors of his... Uhhhh... Less than conventional kinks.

Well that, and IIRC he's tucked particularly deep in corporation's pockets, even more than the average politician.

[Skroe]

Everyone already knows he’s gay, if he just came out of the closet life would be easier.

There’s been a rumor for years he has a thing for young congressional assistants.

Like the barely legal kind.

[Draco-Onis]

I don't think him being gay is really the problem, more than the rumors of his... Uhhhh... Less than conventional kinks.

Well that, and IIRC he's tucked particularly deep in corporation's pockets, even more than the average politician.

Him being gay is a problem for his constituents they have no problem with the lying, scheming, sucking up to Trump and everything else but being gay would harm their "morals".

[Nellise]

There’s been a rumor for years he has a thing for young congressional assistants.

Like the barely legal kind.

I'm assuming if they're working there, they're college age or older: in other words, adults. So who gives a shit.

[mvaliz]

There’s been a rumor for years he has a thing for young congressional assistants.

Like the barely legal kind.

I'm still betting on that Dump got info (from Epstein?) about him and presented that to him durring their golf game... the one where he took him on his golf outing, and after the game was done he (Lindsey) transitioned from one of Dump's most outspoken critics the one of the most outspoken supporters of Dump overnight.

[Dontrike]

I'm still betting on that Dump got info (from Epstein?) about him and presented that to him durring their golf game... the one where he took him on his golf outing, and after the game was done he (Lindsey) transitioned from one of Dump's most outspoken critics the one of the most outspoken supporters of Dump overnight.

I wonder if there's a time stamp of one of their last criticisms of Trump and their first praises of him.

[Martymark]

Is the first impeachment moving forwards this week?

[Jotaux]

Nobody knows currently.

They might send it over with the second, or maybe wait for the third.

[starlord]

Bolton has now said he is willing to testify in the Senate impeachment trial.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...by-senate.html

a rather sudden 180 on his part...