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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    See comments like these are the real problem. Normal people would say I'm glad that enough republicans voted against Roy Moore so he didn't win Alabama instead of bitching about how he lost by a slim margin. Democrats have no moral ground to stand on since they refused to take the Bill Clinton's allegations seriously and instead called all of the accusers trailer trash whores, and refused to believe them.
    Bill Clinton got impeached for his troubles and democrats voted for his impeachment on the record as well as attack him for his actions, grand total of zero have spoken out against Trump and the multiple allegations against him. The GOP, Trump and the right supported Roy Moore and gave him full funding sorry you don't get to wash your hands off this stink Trump and his followers provided money and support for a racist pedophile. Then you guys gladly supported a rapist to the supreme court there was a poll a majority of right wingers were fine with rapist Brett Kavanaugh even if it was were true.

    Maybe next time you guys get a nomination you can up it a notch and nominate a serial killer since you guys seem to be aiming for the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    i'll vote for whoever the fuck i want to thanks. not that i'm voting voting for trump but you seem to insinuating we can only vote for one party or the other. this kind of tribalism shit belongs in the dark ages.
    Quit being tribalistic. Your tribalism belongs in the dark ages.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    The GOP and the Heritage Foundation has been working on stacking the lower courts as well for decades, in an effort to tilt even the candidate pool towards their cause. Your solution assumes only the SCOTUS is politicised, but that is not the case.
    I know, they have been working at it for a while now, but removing the lifetime appointments and moving them to 10 years for the lower courts removes that entire thing within a decade as well. Their work would be short lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    unfortunately for the democrats, Kavanaugh isn't even a potential rapist. It turns out Ford made the whole thing up because she wanted to smear Kavanaugh and put an asterisk over his name in case he took a scalpel to Roe V wade.
    Nice lie there, it wasn't ford who recanted it was some last minute accuser, but you took the bait on that one. You also ignore how the FBI was blocked from talking to all the accusers, blocked from talking to Kavanaugh, blocked from doing follow-ups, blocked from looking into anything that came up during the hearings, and blocked from talking to the over 40 people who attempted to contact them to refute what Kavanaugh said.

    But, from what I have seen thus far on here, that is typically your M.O.
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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    Bill Clinton got impeached for his troubles and democrats voted for his impeachment on the record as well as attack him for his actions, grand total of zero have spoken out against Trump and the multiple allegations against him. The GOP, Trump and the right supported Roy Moore and gave him full funding sorry you don't get to wash your hands off this stink Trump and his followers provided money and support for a racist pedophile. Then you guys gladly supported a rapist to the supreme court there was a poll a majority of right wingers were fine with rapist Brett Kavanaugh even if it was were true.

    Maybe next time you guys get a nomination you can up it a notch and nominate a serial killer since you guys seem to be aiming for the bottom.
    There were actual state charges attached to Bill Clinton's impeachment. Lying under Oath (Perjury) and Obstruction of Justice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac...f_Bill_Clinton

    As for Trump there are made up charges (Obstruction of Congress) and (Abuse of power). They might as well have charged him with Covfefe too.

    The GOP were wrong and Trump were wrong to support Roy Moore, but so is lumping them all Republicans together and saying that they all supported him. Most would look for some evidence, or in the lack of that look for multiple victims or witnesses. Some may have supported him and some don't. Painting them all with a broad brush doesn't help

    Again, nothing was proven with Kavanaugh yet you still cling to the allegation that he is a rapist when there is no evidence suggesting that. You need to focus on the evidence and facts instead of relying on emotional appeals and the moronic mob rule of BELIEVE HER even without verifying anything.

    murder is a lot harder to fake than a rape, since you actually need a corpse in most cases. I'm sure some democrats will still try and manufacture some allegations so I wouldn't suggest giving them any more ideas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    I know, they have been working at it for a while now, but removing the lifetime appointments and moving them to 10 years for the lower courts removes that entire thing within a decade as well. Their work would be short lived.

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    Nice lie there, it wasn't ford who recanted it was some last minute accuser, but you took the bait on that one. You also ignore how the FBI was blocked from talking to all the accusers, blocked from talking to Kavanaugh, blocked from doing follow-ups, blocked from looking into anything that came up during the hearings, and blocked from talking to the over 40 people who attempted to contact them to refute what Kavanaugh said.

    But, from what I have seen thus far on here, that is typically your M.O.
    The FBI investigated Kavanaugh 7 times before. Surely the 8th time must have found something right! Wrong. He was open to being interviewed but they didn't bother.

    Actually the FBI was given an additional week to investigate, yet they wrapped it up in just under 5 days. The reason none of those people were called is because they weren't there or had no useful information. The FBI was given free rein to look into as many things as they wanted in a week, but they finished early on their own accord.
    Take a look yourself. https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/fbi-r...lassmates.html

    Maybe you can stop calling everyone rapists without facts or evidence. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    There were actual state charges attached to Bill Clinton's impeachment. Lying under Oath (Perjury) and Obstruction of Justice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac...f_Bill_Clinton

    As for Trump there are made up charges (Obstruction of Congress) and (Abuse of power). They might as well have charged him with Covfefe too.

    The GOP were wrong and Trump were wrong to support Roy Moore, but so is lumping them all Republicans together and saying that they all supported him. Most would look for some evidence, or in the lack of that look for multiple victims or witnesses. Some may have supported him and some don't. Painting them all with a broad brush doesn't help

    Again, nothing was proven with Kavanaugh yet you still cling to the allegation that he is a rapist when there is no evidence suggesting that. You need to focus on the evidence and facts instead of relying on emotional appeals and the moronic mob rule of BELIEVE HER even without verifying anything.

    murder is a lot harder to fake than a rape, since you actually need a corpse in most cases. I'm sure some democrats will still try and manufacture some allegations so I wouldn't suggest giving them any more ideas.



    The FBI investigated Kavanaugh 7 times before. Surely the 8th time must have found something right! Wrong. He was open to being interviewed but they didn't bother.

    Actually the FBI was given an additional week to investigate, yet they wrapped it up in just under 5 days. The reason none of those people were called is because they weren't there or had no useful information. The FBI was given free rein to look into as many things as they wanted in a week, but they finished early on their own accord.
    Take a look yourself. https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/fbi-r...lassmates.html

    Maybe you can stop calling everyone rapists without facts or evidence. Just a thought.
    ROFLMAO they didn't investigate him they ran a background check on him huge difference, Brett Kavanaugh is a rapist the majority of republicans say even if he came out and said he was they are okay with putting that kind of scum on the supreme court. You may not want to be lumped with that kind of scum but that's the kind of dirtbags you vote for and with. Trump has several sexual assault allegations against him some making their way through our court system, abuse of power and obstruction of congress are not made up charges ask Nixxon. Trump is also a conspirator in charges that landed Michael Cohen in jail let's face it you fully support and love corruption, rapists, pedophiles and the swamp monsters you rile on.

    Trump supporters are morally bankrupt even if you forgive everything he has done he is a three time married scumbags that bangs and bribes porn stars and attacks dead veterans and their family so much for the party of "morals", "family values" and "patriotism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    The FBI investigated Kavanaugh 7 times before. Surely the 8th time must have found something right! Wrong. He was open to being interviewed but they didn't bother.

    Actually the FBI was given an additional week to investigate, yet they wrapped it up in just under 5 days. The reason none of those people were called is because they weren't there or had no useful information. The FBI was given free rein to look into as many things as they wanted in a week, but they finished early on their own accord.
    Take a look yourself. https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/fbi-r...lassmates.html

    Maybe you can stop calling everyone rapists without facts or evidence. Just a thought.
    No, again, you are wrong.

    They did a "Background Check" which is not the same as an actual investigation. When it came to this and they actually had something of substance to look at, they were blocked as part of the "Limited Scope" background check.

    And Conway even admitted they were blocking them on TV around day 3 of the "investigation".

    The FBI was blocked from talking to Kavanaugh
    The FBI was blocked from talking to all the accusers.
    The FBI was blocked from doing follow-ups.
    The FBI was blocked from talking about anything that came up during the hearings.
    The FBI was blocked from talking to the 40+ people who reached out and contacted them about Kavanaugh.

    Then on top of that, the findings were only printed on a single copy and was kept in a secure room where people could only come in one at a time and read it without being able to record it or anything.

    And all of this while he openly committed perjury during his own confirmation hearings.

    So, you are flat out lying or you have no clue what you are talking about and pretending you do.

    Kavanaugh was held to a lower standard than a junky interviewing for a job at a car wash. Both Bill Cosby and Jared from subway would be innocent right now if they were held to the same level of scrutiny as Kavanaugh was.

    So stop trying to spread debunked conspiracy theories on this subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    ROFLMAO they didn't investigate him they ran a background check on him huge difference, Brett Kavanaugh is a rapist the majority of republicans say even if he came out and said he was they are okay with putting that kind of scum on the supreme court. You may not want to be lumped with that kind of scum but that's the kind of dirtbags you vote for and with. Trump has several sexual assault allegations against him some making their way through our court system, abuse of power and obstruction of congress are not made up charges ask Nixxon. Trump is also a conspirator in charges that landed Michael Cohen in jail let's face it you fully support and love corruption, rapists, pedophiles and the swamp monsters you rile on.
    Trump supporters are morally bankrupt even if you forgive everything he has done he is a three time married scumbags that bangs and bribes porn stars and attacks dead veterans and their family so much for the party of "morals", "family values" and "patriotism".
    That poll sample size is too small. They posted an internet question for 1500 people. Considering how many republicans, and democrats are in the US do you think you can get a good sample size from 1500? probably not.

    Also, the way in which they phrase the question matters.
    The main difference between Trump and Nixon is Nixon had actual evidence linking some burglars to the White-house. Nixon was charged with obstruction of justice, abuse of power, criminal cover-up and several violations of the Constitution. Trump, on the other hand was charged with this made up charge Obstruction of Congress and abuse of power, neither which are state crimes, with one being a made up charge. Although it is true you do not need a crime to impeach a president, it certainly helps make your case appear more than a partisan hatchet job.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fugus View Post
    No, again, you are wrong.

    They did a "Background Check" which is not the same as an actual investigation. When it came to this and they actually had something of substance to look at, they were blocked as part of the "Limited Scope" background check.

    And Conway even admitted they were blocking them on TV around day 3 of the "investigation".

    The FBI was blocked from talking to Kavanaugh
    The FBI was blocked from talking to all the accusers.
    The FBI was blocked from doing follow-ups.
    The FBI was blocked from talking about anything that came up during the hearings.
    The FBI was blocked from talking to the 40+ people who reached out and contacted them about Kavanaugh.

    Then on top of that, the findings were only printed on a single copy and was kept in a secure room where people could only come in one at a time and read it without being able to record it or anything.

    And all of this while he openly committed perjury during his own confirmation hearings.

    So, you are flat out lying or you have no clue what you are talking about and pretending you do.

    Kavanaugh was held to a lower standard than a junky interviewing for a job at a car wash. Both Bill Cosby and Jared from subway would be innocent right now if they were held to the same level of scrutiny as Kavanaugh was.

    So stop trying to spread debunked conspiracy theories on this subject.
    That's hilarious, you are the one trying to spread conspiracy theories. The White house authorized the FBI to expand its probe so they could interview anyone it deemed necessary.
    Quote Originally Posted by CNBC
    Later Monday, the White House authorized the FBI to expand its probe “by interviewing anyone it deems necessary as long as the review is finished by the end of the week.”
    source https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/fbi-...asey-ford.html

    This means that they weren't blocked. whoops. Apparently you have no clue what you are talking about either. Even the news is against you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    That poll sample size is too small. They posted an internet question for 1500 people. Considering how many republicans, and democrats are in the US do you think you can get a good sample size from 1500? probably not.
    Do you not know how polls work? Fox news polls average 1000 people Rasmusen sample size 1500, I suggest you educate yourself on the field of statistics.

    The main difference between Trump and Nixon is Nixon had actual evidence linking some burglars to the White-house. Nixon was charged with obstruction of justice, abuse of power, criminal cover-up and several violations of the Constitution. Trump, on the other hand was charged with this made up charge [Obstruction of Congress and abuse of power, neither which are state crimes, with one being a made up charge. Although it is true you do not need a crime to impeach a president, it certainly helps make your case appear more than a partisan hatchet job..
    ROFLMAO Trump went on TV and admiitted it so did Mulvaney, Guliani, the transcript of the phone call, his ambassador, the e-mails from the management budget office, several witnesses. I mean the fact that you calling this a hatchet job means you've disconnected from reality, in the words of Mulvaney we do this all the time get over it.

    As for state crimes Trump is implicated as individual one in several again you fully support criminals. Trump has had more people in his inner circle convicted of federal crimes than any president in history stop pretending you don't know what he is.

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    The job is probably the only thing keeping her alive. A lot of people die soon after being or putting themselves out to pasture. I'm actually hoping she can out live some of the other justices just to shut people up about her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    How do you explain this to the 25% of Bernie supporters that did not vote for Hillary? Or the Jill Stein Voters?

    Personally I've given up on making rational appeals based upon lifetime appointments to SCOTUS.
    Even more Hillary supporters voted for McCain in 2008 so this isn’t an issue specific to “Bernie Bros”

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    We shouldn't have to depend on the life of a single judge to maintain balance on the courts. This is ridiculous. I think it's about time we set like a 10 year limit on a SCOTUS position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenlo View Post
    Let's not forget Republicans are also the ones who bitch about "activist judges" all day long.

    OT: glad to hear it
    While their God Emperor is stacking the court with "activist judges" for the past 3 years . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    That's hilarious, you are the one trying to spread conspiracy theories. The White house authorized the FBI to expand its probe so they could interview anyone it deemed necessary.

    source https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/02/fbi-...asey-ford.html

    This means that they weren't blocked. whoops. Apparently you have no clue what you are talking about either. Even the news is against you.
    Now, you might want to actually look into it further, because that was also deemed a LIE because the white house still continued to block it.

    Really, its like you forget that the current White House administration is prone to lies. Just because they say something, doesn't make it true. Trump tried to claim that at the start too till Conway was forced to admit that they were blocking them.

    So, again, stop with your conspiracy theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    Good for Ginsburg. I hope she lives a long and healthy life.



    unfortunately for the democrats, Kavanaugh isn't even a potential rapist. It turns out Ford made the whole thing up because she wanted to smear Kavanaugh and put an asterisk over his name in case he took a scalpel to Roe V wade.


    source https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/04...h-accusations/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimensius View Post
    Even more Hillary supporters voted for McCain in 2008 so this isn’t an issue specific to “Bernie Bros”
    No, the 2008 election did not occur with an open SCOTUS seat on the line. Just like 2016, the historical illiteracy of Bernie Bros is painful to watch then as now.

    Nice try at "bothsides"
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    Glad to hear it.

    We still need some significant reforms to the SCOTUS so that the balance of law in the country isn't dependent on one octogenarian living or dying by a certain time. Term limits for justices; each new Congress rotates the longest-serving one out and puts a new one on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    If only US politics could go into remission with its many cancers.

    I feel like this kind of article is tempting the shit out of fate though.
    She has to make it all the way through Jan/2020 to keep her seat from being filled. I would bet dollars to donuts (where the fuck did that saying come from btw?) that McConnell has a candidate already to be confirmed, in a single day if necessary. If I had to guess, it would be whoever was sitting in the wings if Kavanaugh didn't work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    (where the fuck did that saying come from btw?)
    Slightly off topic, but according to Wiktionary, "Possibly adapted from "bet dollars to buttons" and "bet dollars to dumplings" that appeared in the 1880s, meaning "to feel almost certain" because the dollars are bet against something nearly worthless." Also, hilariously, "Becoming dated in places where the price of a doughnut now approaches or exceeds one dollar."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    She has to make it all the way through Jan/2020 to keep her seat from being filled. I would bet dollars to donuts (where the fuck did that saying come from btw?) that McConnell has a candidate already to be confirmed, in a single day if necessary. If I had to guess, it would be whoever was sitting in the wings if Kavanaugh didn't work out.
    2 things...

    1) Jan/2021... not 2020. Goddess I WISH it only would go for one more month! :P

    2) Moscow McTurtle does have one ready for the past year+. I forget her name, but I know it's some evangelical Anti-Abortion woman.

    IMO she's the one I'm the most nervous about... in fact, the pessimist in me feels like She's going to pass the same week when Dumbass Dump gets "exonerated" by the Senate in the impeachment trial, just because it will destroy my moralle - and the universe likes doing that now and again to me. >_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvaliz View Post
    2 things...

    1) Jan/2021... not 2020. Goddess I WISH it only would go for one more month! :P

    2) Moscow McTurtle does have one ready for the past year+. I forget her name, but I know it's some evangelical Anti-Abortion woman.

    IMO she's the one I'm the most nervous about... in fact, the pessimist in me feels like She's going to pass the same week when Dumbass Dump gets "exonerated" by the Senate in the impeachment trial, just because it will destroy my moralle - and the universe likes doing that now and again to me. >_<
    Lol, good catch. Still getting used to -20 I guess.

    Oh boy re having one ready. Not surprised, but the fact that it's out there....

    Very nervous as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Slightly off topic, but according to Wiktionary, "Possibly adapted from "bet dollars to buttons" and "bet dollars to dumplings" that appeared in the 1880s, meaning "to feel almost certain" because the dollars are bet against something nearly worthless." Also, hilariously, "Becoming dated in places where the price of a doughnut now approaches or exceeds one dollar."
    Lol good info. I love seeing the epistemology of phrases.

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    I hope she is. She still should retire however. 80 should be the cutoff for all government employees.
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