When do you think we're getting Shadowlands Alpha/Beta?

[ercarp]

You need to measure the beta from release date, not from announcement.

We don't know the exact release date for Shadowlands yet so it makes more sense to measure it from the announcement.

[Doffen]

2-8th of march

[schwarzkopf]

We don't know the exact release date for Shadowlands

Not the exact ... but we are pretty damned sure it will be late November based on the date given on the preorder.

[TheLucky1]

Fire mage fees good,
Fury warrior feels good
Protection warrior feels good
Warlock feels good
Frost mage feels good
Dh feels good
Guardian druid feels good
Monk feels good
Rogue is ok


Unsure about others, but prolly also all pretty okay to good.


Like wtf. Most classes feel ten times better now then in legion, atleast most things come from my base/core off my class rather then from a fucking bullshit power advancement lol

I can't speak for the others but fire and frost mage?
They are exactly the same as in Legion with less options and no cool sets/meaningful rotation alterations.

I mean it's anyways subjective but my problem is that Legion>Bfa the underlying class structure is pretty much the same but the new toys blow.
No legendarys, no artifact, no tier sets.
Azerite gear and essences can't compensate all of that.

So... sure, the specs all "work" but many feel like a shadow of their legion predecessors imo.

btt: week 10 because ion said something like soonTM in the wc radio interview.

[formerShandalay]

My hope is that they'll drop a build this week (so week 8) and Alpha starts next week.

I want to see some datamining!

[Monster Hunter]

It is going to be released late November (based on the presale date), so May for beta seems reasonable.

You need to measure the beta from release date, not from announcement.

Very unlikely to be a november or December release, thats shooter season. Release dates are dictated by marketing. Latest we will see SL is October if it dosnt meet that then ur looking at 2021.

[arandomuser]

bfa beta started feb 7th for its august release, it will be around very soon i think, because, i HOPE they want to have atleast more beta time even if it is a december release, you know because bfa beta..

[schwarzkopf]

Very unlikely to be a november or December release

Late November is pretty much guaranteed at this stage. Release date has already been stated on the packaging


WoD - 5 weeks to spare

Release : November 13th, 2014
Guarantee : December 20th, 2014

Legion - 3 weeks to spare

Release : August 30th, 2016
Guarantee : September 21st, 2016

BfA - 5 weeks to spare

Release : August 14th, 2018
Guarantee : September 21st, 2018

Shadowlands

Release : ?? Mid November 2020 ??
Guarantee : December 31st, 2020

[Puthred]

Fire mage fees good,
Fury warrior feels good
Protection warrior feels good
Warlock feels good
Frost mage feels good
Dh feels good
Guardian druid feels good
Monk feels good
Rogue is ok


Unsure about others, but prolly also all pretty okay to good.


Like wtf. Most classes feel ten times better now then in legion, atleast most things come from my base/core off my class rather then from a fucking bullshit power advancement lol

Affliction, Destruction, Fire and Frost mages feel awful for me.

[Mirishka]

imagine enjoying even more pruned classes lmao

Imagine lacking the very basic ability to understand that different opinions are different lmao

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Affliction, Destruction, Fire and Frost mages feel awful for me.

I play 3 of those (excluding affliction) and enjoy them a lot myself. I especially like the Frost GS build.

Totally agree about Affliction though, it is just... not good this expansion.

[Garretdejiko]

Dind't towelie said February?

tic toc tic toc

[Deferionus]

Affliction, Destruction, Fire and Frost mages feel awful for me.

Affliction felt better in Legion. It isn't terrible, but the legendaries and artifact traits really enhanced the feel of it in a way the Azerite stuff does not. I also have come to really dislike death bolt. Only Azerite trait that feels cool is the drain life one. I really wish they would give us death coil and siphon life baseline again.

[Sweetdeal]

Dind't towelie said February?

tic toc tic toc

Soon TM? xD

[Monster Hunter]

Late November is pretty much guaranteed at this stage. Release date has already been stated on the packaging


WoD - 5 weeks to spare

Release : November 13th, 2014
Guarantee : December 20th, 2014

Legion - 3 weeks to spare

Release : August 30th, 2016
Guarantee : September 21st, 2016

BfA - 5 weeks to spare

Release : August 14th, 2018
Guarantee : September 21st, 2018

Shadowlands

Release : ?? Mid November 2020 ??
Guarantee : December 31st, 2020

That's not the release date, it's the max time befor they have to offer a refund, its part of eu law that any pre sales must have a maximum date it can be released by. So that's why its there. Legion and bfa also had a December 31st date on the pre sale.

So it's not an indication of any date. Wod was the last time wow made a november release, comming after the year of SoO, I doubt highly that they want to replicate any of that. Nor will they want to compete during that season. There best bet is to release after cyberpunk 2077 had died down but befor the shooter season roles around.

[Justpassing]

TOMORROW!






(j/k, though I hope it is soon )

[schwarzkopf]

That's not the release date

It is the only information we have about the release date at all.

So we are pretty much assured that the release will be late November roughly.

That's just reality.

[Monster Hunter]

It is the only information we have about the release date at all.

So we are pretty much assured that the release will be late November roughly.

That's just reality.

That's not how logic works.

We have a date, that's legally mandated to meet a law, that's set to the last date of a year. Which the past expansions were also set to for the same reason.

That litteraly only tells us that they definatly want it out some time in 2020. And litteraly nothing but that.

There's no assurance of any date at all based on the presale max date. Except they want it out befor then so they don't have to give refunds.

[Dizzeeyooo]

Legion and bfa also had a December 31st date on the pre sale.

Are you able to provide a link that shows this please?

[schwarzkopf]

That's not how logic works.

It is EXACTLY how logic works ... anyway, you know the facts as I presented them - accept them or ignore them as you will.

As for the topic of the thread, given we know the release date will be late November, the beta isn't likely until May.

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Are you able to provide a link that shows this please?

He isn't ... I posted the guarantee dates for each expansion above, and they aren't all 31st December

[Monster Hunter]

Are you able to provide a link that shows this please?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.eur...ned-in-germany

That's why there's at least a last date now on things

Corrolation is not causation. The guarentee date is no reflection on the actual release date. Only a maximum.

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It is EXACTLY how logic works ... anyway, you know the facts as I presented them - accept them or ignore them as you will.

As for the topic of the thread, given we know the release date will be late November, the beta isn't likely until May.

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He isn't ... I posted the guarantee dates for each expansion above, and they aren't all 31st December

It's not, your making an assumption based on an unrelated Corrolation. It's gamblers fallacy in a way. These expac were 2-3 weeks befor there Max date so this next one also will be, but there's nothing that actualy makes that so.

What has happend is in 2018 Germany passed a law that bans presale opening with just "summer 2016" as a release that later becomes an at or befor date so company's have to give an at or befor upfront on the presale.