Michael Flynn : soon to be completely exonerated

[Draco-Onis]

Your perception of him as "lying criminal" is shaped primarily by media stories though, not facts.

Mike Pence and Donald Trump are the media now? because they are both on the record saying he lied to them.

[Shalcker]

Mike Pence and Donald Trump are the media now? because they are both on the record saying he lied to them.

If i were to accept your viewpoint, it would mean that US justice system allows criminals and liars to get away scot-free.

I'm not sure that is necessarily much better, though i guess it might be easier for some to stomach then repressive state machines.

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And, on topic, Flynn's team filed another court document:
https://scribd.com/document/44763768...ovt-Misconduct

[Draco-Onis]

If i were to accept your viewpoint, it would mean that US justice system allows criminals and liars to get away scot-free.

It's called innocent until proven guilty a foreign concept for you I am sure.

[Ripster42]

If i were to accept your viewpoint, it would mean that US justice system allows criminals and liars to get away scot-free.

The us justice system does allow criminals and liars to get away scot-free. It's literally the default stance. We prefer that to happen rather than more innocent people go to jail.

I don't know what the other guy is talking about, but cases do sometimes have "key witnesses," without whose testimony the case falls apart. That doesn't make anyone involved less or more guilty. Flynn refusing to cooperate mid trial doesn't mean his co-conspirator didn't do what he was accused of. It means flynn is refusing to cooperate, and participated, essentially, in a scheme to get his co-conspirator off on all charges as I'm fairly certain double jeopardy is attached.

[DocSavageFan]

What gives you that impression? At that point he'd've been convicted and sentenced. Convicts don't get to remain free while on appeal, unless the judge who presided over the case (sullivan, who, having seen the evidence, thinks flynn is guilty, and sold out his country), thinks they're not going to get jail time.

Judge to proceed with Roger Stone's sentencing, will consider motion for new trial
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...n-new-n1137921

The judge said that she will delay the legal effect of the sentence so that Stone's attorneys have time to pursue a new trial.

So yes, "convicts" sometimes do remain free while their case is being appealed. I would expect similar treatment with Flynn assuming his request to change his plea is denied.

[Ripster42]

Judge to proceed with Roger Stone's sentencing, will consider motion for new trial
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...n-new-n1137921

The judge said that she will delay the legal effect of the sentence so that Stone's attorneys have time to pursue a new trial.

So yes, "convicts" sometimes do remain free while their case is being appealed. I would expect similar treatment with Flynn assuming his request to change his plea is denied.

Again, that only applies if the judge who originally presided over the case (jackson, who thinks flynn sold out his country, and believes he's guilty) believes they'll win the case and won't serve jail time. That's it. There's no juror who was possibly biased in flynn's case (it didn't go to trial). The evidence is what it is.