1. #1981
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    The cost for getting tested for COVID-19 isn't being charged to the patient.
    Prove that, because I really have a hard time believing that, we're talking a country that charges 10k for required medication

  2. #1982
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    The cost for getting tested for COVID-19 isn't being charged to the patient.
    maybe not in the u.s.
    in the u.s. if your insurance refuses to cover the cost of the test then you are on the hook for that bill unless they force the insurance companies to cover the cost of the tests which would be the right thing to do
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  3. #1983
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    The cost for getting tested for COVID-19 isn't being charged to the patient.
    It is for people without insurance. People on insurance, medicaid and medicate won't pay.

  4. #1984
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    Prove that, because I really have a hard time believing that, we're talking a country that charges 10k for required medication
    Hes right the test itself is paid for by gov but that doesn't change your hospital bill one bit. Trump is not paying for your ER visit rofl.

  5. #1985
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Hes right the test itself is paid for by gov but that doesn't change your hospital bill one bit. Trump is not paying for your ER visit rofl.
    ER visit is at least 800 uninsured, that's a decent chunk for the type of person that would really hurt from this

  6. #1986
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    ER visit is at least 800 uninsured, that's a decent chunk for the type of person that would really hurt from this
    Probably closer to $1000 per hour you're taking up a spot in most areas tbh.

    Next the guy will probably say you don't need to go to ER to get tested, but you actually do because unlike Korea we don't have mobile testing. Total shit show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Probably closer to $1000 per hour you're taking up a spot in most areas tbh.

    Next the guy will probably say you don't need to go to ER to get tested, but you actually do because unlike Korea we don't have mobile testing. Total shit show.
    Last time I saw an er bill was in a small town 6 years ago, so you're probably right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    The cost of the test isn't but if you think a trip to the ER is free... lol.
    Who the fuck would go to the ER for testing? Even WITH insurance?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Who the fuck would go to the ER for testing? Even WITH insurance?
    How the fuck do you think people are even getting tested in the US? You think your family doc can pull a test kit out of their ass when even hospitals and the CDC are backlogged on them?

    LMFAO.

    Your retort would have weight if we had mobile testing stations like Korea... but alas lets not follow the country that actually had a mass outbreak and suppressed it quickly amirite? Do it the american way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    How the fuck do you think people are even getting tested in the US? You think your family doc can pull a test kit out of their ass when even hospitals and the CDC are backlogged on them?

    LMFAO.

    Your retort would have weight if we had mobile testing stations like Korea... but alas lets not follow the country that actually had a mass outbreak and suppressed it quickly amirite? Do it the american way!
    Clearly you don't understand the testing process at all.

    On the hospital side, the test consists of... a mouth and nose swab. Done.

    Up until recently, all tests done on those samples were done at the CDC. Recently, more labs have been opening up to do the testing in cooperation with the CDC, but it's not like those ER docs are "pulling test kits out of their asses" any more than "family docs" can.

    So yeah, it's definitely possible to get a mouth and nose swab done at, frankly, just about anywhere in order to accomplish testing, even if that sample has to be sent off to a lab somewhere.

    Trying to score a zinger when you have no fucking clue about what's going on just makes you sound pathetic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Your retort would have weight if we had mobile testing stations like Korea... but alas lets not follow the country that actually had a mass outbreak and suppressed it quickly amirite? Do it the american way!
    Americans had the most time to prepare compared to a lot of other countries and we completely failed.
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    how long do y'all think it'll take before the u.s. is the worst hit because our health system is such garbage and employers care more about money than employees health
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  13. #1993
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Clearly you don't understand the testing process at all.

    On the hospital side, the test consists of... a mouth and nose swab. Done.

    Up until recently, all tests done on those samples were done at the CDC. Recently, more labs have been opening up to do the testing in cooperation with the CDC, but it's not like those ER docs are "pulling test kits out of their asses" any more than "family docs" can.

    So yeah, it's definitely possible to get a mouth and nose swab done at, frankly, just about anywhere in order to accomplish testing, even if that sample has to be sent off to a lab somewhere.

    Trying to score a zinger when you have no fucking clue about what's going on just makes you sound pathetic.
    That's not how it is done. They had a person from one of the largest hospitals in Los Angeles on the radio the other day. To get tested you need to go into the hospital. They will check you out and then send you through to see the infectious disease specialist for the hospital and that person will decide if you should get a test. The number of tests they can do are still very limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    So yeah, it's definitely possible to get a mouth and nose swab done at, frankly, just about anywhere in order to accomplish testing, even if that sample has to be sent off to a lab somewhere.
    It only takes five to six hours for test results.

    The South Koreans managed to design and create a test, set up a network of labs across the country and get it all to work in 17 days, a country that has over 50 Million People at little to NO cost to the consumer unlike America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poe View Post
    I think the problem is that most American associate going to the hospital with hospital bills, Even if the test is free.
    Sadly, this is very true.

    Some states are, however, starting to set up drive-through coronavirus testing facilities.

    Washington, California, Texas, Minnesota, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Matter View Post
    That's not how it is done. They had a person from one of the largest hospitals in Los Angeles on the radio the other day. To get tested you need to go into the hospital. They will check you out and then send you through to see the infectious disease specialist for the hospital and that person will decide if you should get a test. The number of tests they can do are still very limited.
    If you go to that hospital, then that's how that hospital does it.

    That doesn't mean that that's the way it's done everywhere, nor does it mean that there's any reason it has to be done that way (or should be done that way, or will continue to be done that way).

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    It only takes five to six hours for test results.

    The South Koreans managed to design and create a test, set up a network of labs across the country and get it all to work in 17 days, a country that has over 55 Million People at little to NO cost to the consumer unlike America.
    It's definitely an embarrassment to the US government and the US healthcare system. (Not that either one isn't embarrassing enough...)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Poe View Post
    I think the problem is that most American associate going to the hospital with hospital bills, Even if the test is free.
    That's because people may still have to pay Co-Pays to see the doctor or someone for testing, Hospitals in America aren't built to be free, they're built for Profit. The Insurance however of course won't completely cover Hospital Stays associated with the Corona unlike S Korea where they have Universal Healthcare.

    More then likely Trump is lying about the Costs associated with Testing as this also only effects people who have Insurance, Millions of Americans still don't.

    This is how much a they charged her for a 20 minute doctor visit and an X-Ray, this is why people are paranoid or afraid about this, and they should be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    If you go to that hospital, then that's how that hospital does it.

    That doesn't mean that that's the way it's done everywhere, nor does it mean that there's any reason it has to be done that way (or should be done that way, or will continue to be done that way).
    Of course it can change and probably will but unfortunately, that's not how it works at the moment. A person needing a test in LA has to jump through hoops that will certainly cost them money if they don't have insurance. A lot of money. The CDC have put in strict controls to limit who gets tested because of the limited amount of testing that they can do. At the end of the day, it could be as simple as going to a drive through but until then, people without insurance are up the creek and that could make the whole problem much worse because they can't afford to go off work (no or limited paid sick leave) and can't afford to pay for the costs associated with the test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Matter View Post
    A 25% drop in social interactions can cut the number of cases by more than 50%.

    https://twitter.com/IDMOD_ORG/status...81591784865793
    I've been training for this my whole life

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    Is than an Alien figurine?


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    Is than an Alien figurine?

    The one on the left? That looks like a soldier carrying another soldier over his shoulders.

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