Do people who visit escorts deserve to get their life ruined?

[PACOX]

People should be able to offer sex for money and people should be able to offer money for sex. Period. Slut and John shaming is ridiculous.

What two consenting adults do is their business.

People have sex for a million other dumb reasons, at least with financial transaction it's mutually beneficial and people know exactly what the deal is.

Some people like to make others feel good and some people have no problem paying for what they want. Weird right?

[Queen of Hamsters]

Still dont know when he suspected it, before or after sex.
I havent, but its in a fancy area so maybe its not that run down?

What did you do in a place like that? For work or just doing a poll?

Support for the women involved.

How the men can pay to enter and climb onto those women is beyond me. Semen-covered sheets, air that's stuffy, women having had "relations" (raped) by so many men that you can't possibly know what they might be carrying...

I simply do not understand it. In one of the more "up-scale" venues I've heard about, they changed the sheets between customers but the mattress was "well used" and no protection offered.

That's about as explicit as I dare be on this matter, considering the forum rules... The stories of real-life horror are just staggering though.

[Bodonius]

You can hear the whole thing, it was directly broadcasted on TV.

https://www.tv4.se/nyheterna/klipp/p...t-sex-12745901

He basically makes the whole thing about his suffering, but what he says is all there for all to see.
Like I said, he'll bounce back. Many of his business ventures were already having issues prior to this though.

I sincerely doubt that he'll be tried and sentenced for something other than the fine he'll pay for the purchase, despite his obvious best attempt at self-sabotaging further.

Have only read the news. It was right after he got arrested so he might have spoken in a less accurate way then what really happen, we will see what happen in court. If he knew I hope he get severe punishment! If he thought it was a regular transaction between adults then I hope it will only be the fine he already have said yes to pay.

[Queen of Hamsters]

People should be able to offer sex for money and people should be able to offer money for sex. Period. Slut and John shaming is ridiculous.

What two consenting adults do is their business.

People have sex for a million other dumb reasons, at least with financial transaction it's mutually beneficial and people know exactly what the deal is.

Some people like to make others feel good and some people have no problem paying for what they want. Weird right?

This is not about two consenting adults. It's about men paying for sex from trafficked women, the razzia saved those involved.

[PACOX]

I guess, but I've read reports of some escorts even at sauna clubs in Germany such as at FKK Artemis being forced to work there by others, even if they somehow manage to slither their way through the strict German laws.

Worker abuse happens everywhere but is heavily mitigated when there is an governing body overseeing an industry and not just the black market.

[Volatilis]

People should be able to offer sex for money and people should be able to offer money for sex. Period. Slut and John shaming is ridiculous.

What two consenting adults do is their business.

People have sex for a million other dumb reasons, at least with financial transaction it's mutually beneficial and people know exactly what the deal is.

Some people like to make others feel good and some people have no problem paying for what they want. Weird right?

problem is that its paying/supporting an industry where its not always consenting though.....

Life isnt so black and white. Theres a reason paying for sex feels immoral. Somewhere someone is being exploited and you're assisting/partaking in that twisted culture because you think its fine to have a shag with someone who doesnt give a shit and doesnt want to work a real job.

[PACOX]

This is not about two consenting adults. It's about men paying for sex from trafficked women, the razzia saved those involved.

Sex trafficking is emboldened by the stigma surrounding sex work.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Sex trafficking is emboldened by the stigma surrounding sex work.

Yes, it is.

But this is still a case of sex trafficking and a famous person buying said "services". I'm 100% for legalization and regulation, and harsher punishment for those buying it illegally.

Sadly, it seems that the only time something changes is when there's a high profile case. I bet not much will change substantially despite the government's populistic adoption of this matter.

[Bodonius]

Support for the women involved.

How the men can pay to enter and climb onto those women is beyond me. Semen-covered sheets, air that's stuffy, women having had "relations" (raped) by so many men that you can't possibly know what they might be carrying...

I simply do not understand it.

When I was on Philippines I was having a beer chilling and a pervert sat down beside me bragging about how many he have sex with and that he never use condom. Yes I agree most of those people are disgusting, but there are others that have other needs that I would be alot more forgiving against.

[Volatilis]

Sex trafficking is emboldened by the stigma surrounding sex work.

if sex trafficking doesnt have a big paying customer base just waiting for it then they move onto more lucrative business ventures like black tar heroin for example.

[Bodonius]

Yeah I don't know much about this case, I was just pointing out the fact that suspecting something may not be legit doesn't mean you face full consequences as though it's not legit.

Yes, until its more investigated we dont know for sure he actually knew before what he was doing. He suspected, but when did he suspect? What other things might make the case less disgusting? Maybe it really was his first time, it was suspect but his friend he went there with said its fine. We just know to little to judge.

[PACOX]

problem is that its paying/supporting an industry where its not always consenting though.....

Life isnt so black and white. Theres a reason paying for sex feels immoral. Somewhere someone is being exploited and you're assisting/partaking in that twisted culture because you think its fine to have a shag with someone who doesnt give a shit and doesnt want to work a real job.

Sex work feels immoral because of the prudish lens it's viewed through. We live in a society where sex education is still taboo in some places, where it's more acceptable to show drugs and violence on TV than an accidental nip slip. That's where the guilt comes from.

[breadisfunny]

Yes, they're paying to pretty much rape someone.

my sides they hurt. this is hilarious. unless your referring to the sex slave trade which is illegal and immoral.

[Volatilis]

Sex work feels immoral because of the prudish lens it's viewed through. We live in a society where sex education is still taboo in some places, where it's more acceptable to show drugs and violence on TV than an accidental nip slip. That's where the guilt comes from.

Well considering people have been trading sex for bread/coin/a roof since we could walk and talk I doubt that.

We've had centuries to adjust and it still seems weird.

[breadisfunny]

I dunno. People seem hell bent on ruining his life as much as possible, to the point where he won't be able to bounce back.

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He's definitely on the level where every Swede who watches even an inch of TV will know who he is.

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Are escorts and prostitutes different in the English language? In Swedish, "eskorter" and "prostituerade" are synonymous. "Eskorter" just sounds more fancy and less trashy, so I think that's what the more high-class ones prefer to call themselves.

And yeah, obviously if it's an underage ring it's 100000 times worse.

most people on the this forum aren't from sweden.

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Well considering people have been trading sex for bread/coin/a roof since we could walk and talk I doubt that.

We've had centuries to adjust and it still seems weird.

really cause the romans,greeks and other ancient cultures had no issue with it as long as you paid your taxes.

[PACOX]

problem is that its paying/supporting an industry where its not always consenting though.....

Life isnt so black and white. Theres a reason paying for sex feels immoral. Somewhere someone is being exploited and you're assisting/partaking in that twisted culture because you think its fine to have a shag with someone who doesnt give a shit and doesnt want to work a real job.

How much does the end user have to do with the misdeeds of the people in the supply chain? If you buy something from China are responsible for their human rights violations and poor worker conditions?

Its one thing to actual seek people who are being trafficked, another to seek someone who happened to be be trafficked but the client wasn't aware and the people running the operation did a good job of masking it.

Its not fair to assume everyone in the industry is involved in or roped into trafficking the same way everyone who smokes weed isn't roped into a Mexican Cartel.

[breadisfunny]

Yes, so hilarious that the guy paid to rape a woman who had no choice.

maybe you should specify what your referring instead of expecting people to be mind readers ok? also read my edit.

[breadisfunny]

Maybe you should read the thread.

i did read the thread. you seem to have reading comprehension issues. so go reread my edited response and get back to me.

[breadisfunny]

No, you didn't if you have to ask what I'm referring to.

it's not hard to clarify a response but it seems to be something you refuse to do for some reason.

[Sunseeker]

In a society that properly protects sex workers, who gives a shit if you want to pay for a fuck?

If sex workers are ignored, jailed, or generally mistreated, and you go to one, then yeah, fuck you.