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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I think that proves my point. If the food was awful they wouldn't eat so much of it would they? The reason people in the EU are skinny minnies is because the food is inedible rubbish because of all the needless EU regulation imposed on it.

    I mean on a packet of peanuts, "this product may contain nuts" well you don't say, but stupid EU regulatory case in point whose taxpayers pay for such needless claptrap? Not the UK anymore.

    Bring on the tasty stuff, cheap bent bananas, chlorine and all, from January when we are truly sovereign and free!
    Low energy. Transparent. Pathetic.

    Come on dribbles, your posts are rubbish but this just shows a lack of effort. Is trying to defend the indefensible wearing even you down?

    Maybe hunt down some more articles that you think help you, but just show that you're wrong? Maybe that will give you some inspiration?
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    People are only engaging with him to fuel their own entertainment. I hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeneasBK View Post
    People are only engaging with him to fuel their own entertainment. I hope.
    No it's because such views can never go unanswered otherwise they grow and spread like a cancer. Every lie, hate and bullshit he spreads must be countered for the greater good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    No it's because such views can never go unanswered otherwise they grow and spread like a cancer. Every lie, hate and bullshit he spreads must be countered for the greater good.
    And also because it's funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I think that proves my point. If the food was awful they wouldn't eat so much of it would they? The reason people in the EU are skinny minnies is because the food is inedible rubbish because of all the needless EU regulation imposed on it.

    I mean on a packet of peanuts, "this product may contain nuts" well you don't say, but stupid EU regulatory case in point whose taxpayers pay for such needless claptrap? Not the UK anymore.

    Bring on the tasty stuff, cheap bent bananas, chlorine and all, from January when we are truly sovereign and free!
    lol there is no way that this post is serious. Americans are overweight because Mcdonalds is delicious? That's a pretty good joke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    lol there is no way that this post is serious. Americans are overweight because Mcdonalds is delicious? That's a pretty good joke!
    It does beg the question of why obesity is such a big problem in the UK, though, cause I know it isn't from the bland fare that the English try to pass as cuisine.

    Go figure, you invade 90% of the world for spices and use exactly none of them. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    It does beg the question of why obesity is such a big problem in the UK, though, cause I know it isn't from the bland fare that the English try to pass as cuisine.

    Go figure, you invade 90% of the world for spices and use exactly none of them. /s
    You know the answer already, it is the fault of the EU and might be something to do with this.

    Chocolate, sweets, and biscuits are among the EU's top food and drink exports to the UK - worth £4.5bn a year:- so says the lobby group Chocolate, Biscuits and Confectionery of Europe.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/118154...d-terms-japan/

    Never mind, Barnier has shot them in the foot by penalising those EU sweetie exports and a benefit of Brexit is all Britons will be slimmer and healthier as a result. Does make you wonder which side he is on sometimes.

    Mind you what is wrong with measuring the deliciousness of a country's food by their citizens waistline? Every other way is just subjective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You know the answer already, it is the fault of the EU and might be something to do with this.

    Chocolate, sweets, and biscuits are among the EU's top food and drink exports to the UK - worth £4.5bn a year:- so says the lobby group Chocolate, Biscuits and Confectionery of Europe.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/118154...d-terms-japan/

    Never mind, Barnier has shot them in the foot by penalising those EU sweetie exports and a benefit of Brexit is all Britons will be slimmer and healthier as a result. Does make you wonder which side he is on sometimes.

    Mind you what is wrong with measuring the deliciousness of a country's food by their citizens waistline? Every other way is just subjective.
    The EU makes UK citizens eat sweets?

    Wow, I never knew the power the EU has in your country, damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    The EU makes UK citizens eat sweets?

    Wow, I never knew the power the EU has had in your country, damn.
    There, I fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    There, I fixed that for you.
    Did your government up until now had any say at all? Like what did you pay them for?
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    You know the answer already, it is the fault of the EU and might be something to do with this.

    Chocolate, sweets, and biscuits are among the EU's top food and drink exports to the UK - worth £4.5bn a year:- so says the lobby group Chocolate, Biscuits and Confectionery of Europe
    Which is an implicit admission that Europe makes better confectionery. *sips good quality Irish Breakfast Tea*

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Mind you what is wrong with measuring the deliciousness of a country's food by their citizens waistline? Every other way is just subjective.
    English food is just uniquely bad, dude. Rule of thumb is; further north in Europe you go, shittier the food gets.

    Sorry Nordic countries please learn to use some other cooking alcohol than beer. I do dig some of the desserts though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    I know it isn't from the bland fare that the English try to pass as cuisine.
    But this is the whole point: the diversity and excellence in cuisine we now enjoy in the UK is specifically because of the opening of borders and movement of people that some of us in this thread worry we'll lose as a result of this anti-immigration focused Brexit.

    What we call "British" food is completely different to what it was 100 years ago; it isn't just localised specialities / jellied eels and mash.

    Multiculturalism isn't just "tossed salads", it's also "melting pots". I think you'd find yourself getting a thick ear if you insisted to e.g., Peter Gordon / Alex Claridge / etc. their food wasn't "British". In the same way you'd get a thick ear if you insisted to a black classical musician they shouldn't be playing Western European art music because they're not white. I'm not saying you're making one but knee jerk reactions to cultural appropriation piss me off.

    London is, arguably, in the top 10 gastronomic capitals of the world, along with Tokyo, Barcelona, Paris, etc.

    The concern for us who actually live here and oppose Brexit is the exact opposite of what you're saying: that the excellent standards we now enjoy will be diminished. And that applies to pretty much everything - not just food[/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeGin Tufnel View Post
    But this is the whole point: the diversity and excellence in cuisine we now enjoy in the UK is specifically because of the opening of borders and movement of people that some of us in this thread worry we'll lose as a result of this anti-immigration focused Brexit.

    What we call "British" food is completely different to what it was 100 years ago; it isn't just localised specialities / jellied eels and mash.

    Multiculturalism isn't just "tossed salads", it's also "melting pots". I think you'd find yourself getting a thick ear if you insisted to e.g., Peter Gordon / Alex Claridge / etc. their food wasn't "British". In the same way you'd get a thick ear if you insisted to a black classical musician they shouldn't be playing Western European art music because they're not white. I'm not saying you're making one but knee jerk reactions to cultural appropriation piss me off.

    London is, arguably, in the top 10 gastronomic capitals of the world, along with Tokyo, Barcelona, Paris, etc.

    The concern for us who actually live here and oppose Brexit is the exact opposite of what you're saying: that the excellent standards we now enjoy will be diminished. And that applies to pretty much everything - not just food
    Let me allay your fears...

    Brexit is not anti-immigration and will serve to increase diversity. This weeks recent example of offering 3 million people from Hong Kong a pathway to UK citizenship prove that point.

    Does London cuisine, as you mention it, really need another EU pizza/pasta parlour? Treating citizens of the world equally rather than putting EU mainly white immigrants, as remainers with a hint of racism do, on a pedestal is wrong and Brexit ends this inequality.

    Indian restaurants have been complaining for years how they can't source the specialised chefs they need locally. Another example of a Brexit benefit that will ease that shortage.

    The UK will be more diverse, not less from now on. Why can't remainers/rejoiners find it within themselves, as brexiteers do, to celebrate that?

    Look to the world, not the EU village, for that is where the future lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    How many countries does the EU encompass again?

    Your posts are so blatantly "trololol" these days, are you even trying?
    That's an easy one.

    EU pop 450m / world population 7.5bn x 100 = 6% of the world = quite correctly described as a village.

    Let the UK deal with the whole world, or 94% of it if the EU want to build a wall around themselves and close themselves off.

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    I feel like this needs to be posted again here, in regards to what Dribbles is pushing above.

    That "village" isn't exactly isolating itself from other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Indian restaurants have been complaining for years how they can't source the specialised chefs they need locally. Another example of a Brexit benefit that will ease that shortage.
    Why did the UK stop Indian migrants from coming to the UK?
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    so the sum up what Dribbles mean.

    Americans have a large amount of overweight, because american junkfood is great quality, something the brits can look forward to get more of. The UK has a large amount of overweight because the EU is forcing them to eat crap imported chocolate, that'll stop soon and the brits will be slimmer for it, except of course they'll have more of that great quality food that american junk food is, so they'll still be overweight.

    Oh and brexit was never about taking power back, apparently it's to open up for the world, just not the western world of course, it seems that the UK is going to allign with Asia now according to Dribbles. Smelling some kind of "British Empire" dreams here, it's quite cute, but countries are excited about brexit, simply because they can get far better terms with little UK than they could with the economic powerhouse the EU is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Why did the UK stop Indian migrants from coming to the UK?
    So many people want to come live in the success that is Brexit Britain, somehow numbers have had to be restricted. As much as they desperately want to the whole world can't come and live here tomorrow.

    Curryologists trained in the art of cheffery with exquisite spices have had to compete, and take second place, with unskilled EU migrants for limited places.

    This was unfair, Brexit addresses this and makes Britain a better place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    So many people want to come live in the success that is Brexit Britain, somehow numbers have had to be restricted. As much as they desperately want to the whole world can't come and live here tomorrow.

    Curryologists trained in the art of cheffery with exquisite spices have had to compete, and take second place, with unskilled EU migrants for limited places.

    This was unfair, Brexit addresses this and makes Britain a better place.
    So your points-based system that the UK had since uhm, let me look this up, oh since 2008. Wait a minute, 2008, weren't you part of the EU back then? How was that even possible? Up until 2006 when the points-based system was introduced you had managed migration with a work permit system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    How many countries does the EU encompass again?

    Your posts are so blatantly "trololol" these days, are you even trying?
    The European Village is an affectionate moniker that has been used by many in European circles.

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    I feel like this needs to be posted again here, in regards to what Dribbles is pushing above.

    That "village" isn't exactly isolating itself from other countries.
    A key element that this does not account for is that there's more than trade, namely immigration policy :

    -since we in CH joined the Schengen Area, we on one hand saw what some qualify as unbridled immigration from the EU, and on another hand immigration becoming much more difficult for non EU people (including NA).
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