The Brexit aftermath thread

[Zaydin]

This whole Twitter thread has me drowning in schadenfreude.

Seems emblematic of Brexiteers who didn't think things through and are only now realizing they screwed themselves but can't admit they did it to themselves.

[Logwyn]

This whole Twitter thread has me drowning in schadenfreude.

Seems emblematic of Brexiteers who didn't think things through and are only now realizing they screwed themselves but can't admit they did it to themselves.

Voting for Brexit was nothing but emotional thinking and not based on sound reason.

[Zaydin]

Voting for Brexit was nothing but emotional thinking and not based on sound reason.

Same with Trump supporters.

Trump supporters and Brexiteers are cut from the same cloth.

[Iliena]

Same with Trump supporters.

Trump supporters and Brexiteers are cut from the same cloth.

I was pro remain and it will cause unnecessary hardship in the UK in the long term, but comparing Brexiteers to trump supporters it isn't even in the same sport, especially those who are still going to vote for him again in November.

With Donald's track record he makes Boris look like a true worldclass statesman in comparison.

[Logwyn]

Same with Trump supporters.

Trump supporters and Brexiteers are cut from the same cloth.

All you have to do is just repeat "Winning" over and over again as the Trumpsters nod their heads in agreement.


I miss Bercow as the speaker always entertaining. Lindsay Hoyle might be fun to watch too.

I just wonder if Scotland will get up in arms and just leave too.

[Demolitia]

Yeah, I mean, Denmark is relatively small, and is flanked by Norway on the north and the UK on the west, with the Faroe islands in between, so they're all going to have a huge impact on Denmark's fisheries. That said, the Faroe Islands are (kinda?) part of Denmark, so that should continue to be fine, and Norway seems to still like Denmark, so that'll be fine too.

The fishing industry in Denmark is 0.5 percent of the economy. It employs 20k people. The worst case scenario in this sector for denmark is not something that would do that much harm, in the grand scheme of things.

[Gorsameth]

So the "negotiations" ended a day earlier with Barnier looking fairly indignant. Honestly it is just a waste of everyone's time at this point

The EU team knows all the well that this is all just a farce. But its important to keep up appearances and have the negotiation so long as the UK is showing up to talk.

[Demolitia]

So the "negotiations" ended a day earlier with Barnier looking fairly indignant. Honestly it is just a waste of everyone's time at this point

Well at least we dont have to move 200 people around every week thanks to covid. Not wasting too much money.

[dribbles]

So the "negotiations" ended a day earlier with Barnier looking fairly indignant. Honestly it is just a waste of everyone's time at this point

The EU team are desperate for a deal that is why they keep turning up. If they could cope without the UK they would have walked away ages ago and they know the UK leaving is an existential crisis for the EU and can't hold it together without us/our money.

[Easo]

The EU team are desperate for a deal that is why they keep turning up. If they could cope without the UK they would have walked away ages ago and they know the UK leaving is an existential crisis for the EU and can't hold it together without us/our money.

I am waiting for the day when you will understand the difference between economy of a single country (which is not USA/China) versus half a continent.

[Temp name]

I am waiting for the day when you will understand the difference between economy of a single country (which is not USA/China) versus half a continent.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...name_desc=true
Not that he'll read it, but.. Eh.

[Xarkan]

The EU team are desperate for a deal that is why they keep turning up. If they could cope without the UK they would have walked away ages ago and they know the UK leaving is an existential crisis for the EU and can't hold it together without us/our money.

It is morally wrong to allow a person to drown without offering help. That the drowning man refuses the help however is on him.

[Dhrizzle]

Anyone else noticed that @dribbles is using Dennis the Menace as his avatar, a character created in Dundee, Scotland. A city that voted 60% to Remain and held a vigil in mourning when we "left" the EU. Possibly a subliminal cry for help?

[dribbles]

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...name_desc=true
Not that he'll read it, but.. Eh.

Bad chart I'm afraid. It is incorrect to compare as like for like right now the GDP of the EU with that of the US. The GDP of the EU is zero. That's right, zilch it has none unless you allow, like that chart does, the EU to pilfer Germany's GDP, steal France's, plunder Spain's GDP etc etc and combine it falsely as though it were one big unit claiming it all as its own.

It is not one nation like the US or China or the UK but a parasitical undemocratic organisation of political elites leeching money off the backs of 27 individual member nation states of which it comprises.

Sure it does have designs of becoming one big EU nation swallowing its component parts up, but it will never succeed as its individual proud members will peel away one by one, like the UK has, before that happens. Perhaps the EU will learn from its mistakes in their failed attempt to destroy the existence of the UK as a nation state, I doubt it.

Charts like that are a nonsense no better than an unturned set of tarot cards trying to predict a future which will never exist. I'd bet on France, Germany etc still being around individually in a 1000 years, but wouldn't give the EU 10 years as they push too hard and too fast against the national heritage and interests of their citizens.

28 becomes 27,26,25,24.....until there is nothing left of the EU mark my words.

Anyone else noticed that @dribbles is using Dennis the Menace as his avatar, a character created in Dundee, Scotland. A city that voted 60% to Remain and held a vigil in mourning when we "left" the EU. Possibly a subliminal cry for help?

I'm with the fisherman Dennis of Dundee who can't wait to end the transition and take back control of their waters.

[tehealadin]

Anyone else noticed that @dribbles is using Dennis the Menace as his avatar, a character created in Dundee, Scotland. A city that voted 60% to Remain and held a vigil in mourning when we "left" the EU. Possibly a subliminal cry for help?

It is also full of unemployed/unemployable drug addicts. Just saying.

[Easo]

Bad chart I'm afraid. It is incorrect to compare as like for like right now the GDP of the EU with that of the US. The GDP of the EU is zero. That's right, zilch it has none unless you allow, like that chart does, the EU to pilfer Germany's GDP, steal France's, plunder Spain's GDP etc etc and combine it falsely as though it were one big unit claiming it all as its own.

It is not one nation like the US or China or the UK but a parasitical undemocratic organisation of political elites leeching money off the backs of 27 individual member nation states of which it comprises.

Sure it does have designs of becoming one big EU nation swallowing its component parts up, but it will never succeed as its individual proud members will peel away one by one, like the UK has, before that happens. Perhaps the EU will learn from its mistakes in their failed attempt to destroy the existence of the UK as a nation state, I doubt it.

Charts like that are a nonsense no better than an unturned set of tarot cards trying to predict a future which will never exist. I'd bet on France, Germany etc still being around individually in a 1000 years, but wouldn't give the EU 10 years as they push too hard and too fast against the national heritage and interests of their citizens.

28 becomes 27,26,25,24.....until there is nothing left of the EU mark my words.

What the actual fuck are you talking about? EU is a single trading block, that is one of it's main purposes, so of course the GDP of member states are summed up.
The fucking link even has a distribution between individual countries in the EU.

And Britain is going alone against that block, which is more than 5 times bigger. Stop insulting our intelligence, we can read and understand the charts pretty well.

Also, conspiracy theories are not allowed on this forum, as you obviously cannot remember that. Do I have to report you for "EU is stealing" tinfoil crap or you will remove it yourself?

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

I'm with the fisherman Dennis of Dundee who can't wait to end the transition and take back control of their waters.

The Dennis of Dundee who went whaling until 1912 when the industry died as the Jute manufacturing industry (which relied on large amounts of whale oil) disappeared as cheaper cloth imports from India started to enter the economy from the end of the 19th century and make local production unprofitable?

That's a bit of a stretch, even for you. Your whale fishermen would be at least 140 years old...

[LeGin Tufnel]

The Dennis of Dundee who went whaling until 1912 when the industry died as the Jute manufacturing industry (which relied on large amounts of whale oil) disappeared as cheaper cloth imports from India started to enter the economy from the end of the 19th century and make local production unprofitable?

That's a bit of a stretch, even for you. Your whale fishermen would be at least 140 years old...

Yes, the driving force of Dundee's economy in the 20th C was its textile industry. Even I vaguely knew that without having to google it.

And then you google it and it transpires the gradual decline of the jute industry was well-handled and there was full employment in the town, until the 1980s when Thatcher ended state support for industry.

This is the problem. The UK has a mature, service-based economy. LOL at the idiots who think catching a few additional herring in the North Sea is going to make up for the slump we will see post Dec 31st:

Total UK exports of services (excluding travel, transport and banking) rose by 14.3% in 2018 to £185.3 billion; imports of services increased by 17.0% to £92.1 billion.

By region, Europe continued to be the largest export and import markets of UK businesses in 2018, accounting for 51.4% and 56.2% respectively.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/businessindus...nservices/2018

I'm looking forward to a lot of vitriol being directed at whining, Brexit-voting fishermen including their representatives:

Bertie Armstrong, chief executive of the Scottish Fisherman’s Federation, told the Commons Brexit select committee that the fishing sector stood to see a doubling or more of its catch when Britain took back control of its waters.

He said the World Trade Organisation tariff on fish was between 5% and 10%, while the pound had dropped by almost 20% against the euro after the EU referendum.

“Let us not be frightened to death of tariffs at all: they may be consumed in the noise of currency fluctuation and some small tariff may not be disaster,” he said.

“We must very much change the rhetoric of ‘we must be in the single market, we must be in the single market.’ We don’t need a single market, we need an adequate market.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-fishing-chief

What a short-sighted cunt.

[Acidbaron]

Yes, the driving force of Dundee's economy in the 20th C was its textile industry. Even I vaguely knew that without having to google it.

And then you google it and it transpires the gradual decline of the jute industry was well-handled and there was full employment in the town, until the 1980s when Thatcher ended state support for industry.

This is the problem. The UK has a mature, service-based economy. LOL at the idiots who think catching a few additional herring in the North Sea is going to make up for the slump we will see post Dec 31st:

Total UK exports of services (excluding travel, transport and banking) rose by 14.3% in 2018 to £185.3 billion; imports of services increased by 17.0% to £92.1 billion.

By region, Europe continued to be the largest export and import markets of UK businesses in 2018, accounting for 51.4% and 56.2% respectively.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/businessindus...nservices/2018

I'm looking forward to a lot of vitriol being directed at whining, Brexit-voting fishermen including their representatives:

Bertie Armstrong, chief executive of the Scottish Fisherman’s Federation, told the Commons Brexit select committee that the fishing sector stood to see a doubling or more of its catch when Britain took back control of its waters.

He said the World Trade Organisation tariff on fish was between 5% and 10%, while the pound had dropped by almost 20% against the euro after the EU referendum.

“Let us not be frightened to death of tariffs at all: they may be consumed in the noise of currency fluctuation and some small tariff may not be disaster,” he said.

“We must very much change the rhetoric of ‘we must be in the single market, we must be in the single market.’ We don’t need a single market, we need an adequate market.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-fishing-chief

What a short-sighted cunt.

Ding, ding, ding we have a winner!

The UK is highly reliant on others, for some absurd reason the conservatives in the UK have been gradually but effectively destroying their manufacturing industry. The automotive industry is going follow during this Brexit, even if we exclude tariffs that industry is reliant on moving parts from one factory to another to remain cost efficient and parts simply can't end up being stuck at border due to lack of a proper frame work on the UK side, if we include tariffs that's going to hurt the sales in an already highly competitive market and this was all before the corona crisis made the market crash, right after the industry took another large hit.

Cynics said that this brexit is simply an attempt to privatize institutes mostly to open up the way for politics and politicians becoming an even better way to become rich with very little effort. Guess they were right.

[dribbles]

What the actual fuck are you talking about? EU is a single trading block, that is one of it's main purposes, so of course the GDP of member states are summed up.
The fucking link even has a distribution between individual countries in the EU.

And Britain is going alone against that block, which is more than 5 times bigger. Stop insulting our intelligence, we can read and understand the charts pretty well.

Also, conspiracy theories are not allowed on this forum, as you obviously cannot remember that. Do I have to report you for "EU is stealing" tinfoil crap or you will remove it yourself?

The EU is not a single country, it was 28 now 27, unlike the US, China, or Britain. Your graph pretends by comparison that it is. It would have been much fairer to pick some random countries in the EU as comparables to the UK and show the graph in that case, I give you an example modified from your link containing almost half the remaining EU constituents which is much more realistic.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...name_desc=true

You say you can read a graph well then please do so. I give you facts, you provide the conspiracies, report yourself.