Necromancer and Tinker - Double new Classes Next Expansion

[Arkenonporos]

This is achievable if Blizzards stops inventing arbitrary new systems upon systems (I'm talking covenants, soulbinds, mission table 3.0 etc.) for a new expansion, focusing instead on the above new classes.

The lore is shaping up for both: Tinker with Mechagon, and Necromancer with Shadowlands.

Cloth wearers need a 4th class - Necromancer
Mail wearers desperately need a 3rd class - Tinker

Necromancer: Take Undead minions away from Death Knights, making them anti-paladins instead, add undead minions to Necromancers as pets. Just like demon form was taken from warlock and added to demon hunter, or that both Paladin and Priest have a Holy spec. Necro specs would be blood, frost and unholy, just like dk specs, but focusing on casting abilities instead of melee.
Races: any race capable of being death knights

Tinker: Wears mail armor, uses guns and a new weapon type: dual pistols exclusively.
The only profession locked class in the game: Professions which are learned and cannot be unlearned: Engineering, Alchemy
3 specs:
Pilot: Giant robot suits, think Evangelion and the like. Rockets, Lasers, Cannons, Energy Shields, Two-handed Vibro-Swords etc.
Machinist: turrets, robot pets taken from hunter made tinker exclusive - grenades etc.
Medic: injections, poisons, sprays, healing salves, alchemical weapons etc.
Races: any race choosing the engineering and alchemy profession pairing (yes even tauren or trolls, as they are capable of being engineers and alchemists even now)
Background story: You are an inventor of your people, and have started to weaponize engineering and alchemy to use in combat.

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Guns or Dual Pistols would determine the way tinker deals damage, kinda like in FPS games:

Guns: One big burst of damage at a time - like two-handed weapons currently.
Pistols: Shorter gradual damage at a time - like daggers and one-handed weapons currently.

Like how monks can now choose in Shadowlands if they want one-handed or a two-handed weapon.

[kappas]

Necromancer for horde. Tinker for alliance. deal?

[Itori]

Your tinker sounds like it was ripped straight from gw2s engineer. Highly doubt it they bring a new class though.

[matrix123mko]

Necromancer for horde. Tinker for alliance. deal?

Weird but okay.

[Arkenonporos]

Necromancer for horde. Tinker for alliance. deal?

I can't say deal because of goblins :/

[Saltysquidoon]

Necromancer: Take Undead minonions away from Death Knights, making them anti-paladins instead, add undead minions to Necroamncers as pets. Just like demon form was taken from warlock and added to demon hunter, or that both Paladin and Priest have a Holy spec. Necro specs would be blood, frost and unholy, just like dk specs, but focusing on casting abilities instead of melee.
Races: any race capable of being death knights

I'm just itching to see how you're going to justify that statement.

[froschhure]

yeah besides every need, we get two new classes that are no classes but more class skins /prestige look or even mb a f****** profession.

[Arkenonporos]

I'm just itching to see how you're going to justify that statement.

I don't need to justify anything.

Necromancers are the masters of undead minions, while dks only have it now because necro isn't playable yet.

Look at the model from "death knights" of Warcraft 1 - they are not death knights inasmuch as a priest is not a paladin and a warlock is not a demon hunter.

They wear cloth - ergo they are necromancers, Blizz just wanted them to sound cooler and distinguish them as quasi-heroes at the time.
Also in Warcraft 3, there are necromancers who summon undead minions far ore often than dks raising the dead, so it is more of a necromancer thing by definition.

[Teriz]

The very fact that you have to take a major feature from an existing class in order to make a new class viable indicates that the new class shouldn’t be brought into the game in the first place.

It would be like taking demonic pets from Warlocks.

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yeah besides every need, we get two new classes that are no classes but more class skins /prestige look or even mb a f****** profession.

Tinker Class =/= Engineering Profession

[Varodoc]

Necromancer for horde. Tinker for alliance. deal?

No lmao.

/10chars

[Arkenonporos]

The very fact that you have to take a major feature from an existing class in order to make a new class viable indicates that the new class shouldn’t be brought into the game in the first place.

It would be like taking demonic pets from Warlocks.

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Tinker Class =/= Engineering Profession

No, it would be like taking demon form from warlock as stated above - which is precisely what happened with the introduction of demon hunters.

[Kyphael]

If we're getting two new classes, then I hope it's Necromancer and Bard.

[Syegfryed]

two new classes is a bit too much for blizzard who could barely do a new one years ago with just 2 specs, is either one of those or we get nothing in the expansion.

[Arkenonporos]

If we're getting two new classes, then I hope it's Necromancer and Bard.

I considered bard many tiems, but it just can't work in warcraft as a separate class :/
and we have 4 leather wearers on top of that.
There is just not enough abilities or spells or weapons for that matter to make it work.
Instruments would sound good in theory, but in practice any wariro or mage or any other class woudl just faceroll them with their demigod-like op abilities.

[PrivateSmiley]

So we had a huge thread about Necromancer

Then we had a huge thread about Tinkerer

now we have a COMBINED thread?!?!

HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED!!!

[StillMcfuu]

Necromancer for horde. Tinker for alliance. deal?

I 100% support this idea, not only because I don't think they should have homogenized shaman and paladin, but the tears from players would be well well well worth it.

[ping-pong]

This is achievable if Blizzards stops inventing arbitrary new systems upon systems (I'm talking covenants, soulbinds, mission table 3.0 etc.) for a new expansion, focusing instead on the above new classes.

The lore is shaping up for both: Tinker with Mechagon, and Necromancer with Shadowlands.

Cloth wearers need a 4th class - Necromancer
Mail wearers desperately need a 3rd class - Tinker

Necromancer: Take Undead minions away from Death Knights, making them anti-paladins instead, add undead minions to Necromancers as pets. Just like demon form was taken from warlock and added to demon hunter, or that both Paladin and Priest have a Holy spec. Necro specs would be blood, frost and unholy, just like dk specs, but focusing on casting abilities instead of melee.
Races: any race capable of being death knights

Tinker: Wears mail armor, uses guns and a new weapon type: dual pistols exclusively.
The only profession locked class in the game: Professions which are learned and cannot be unlearned: Engineering, Alchemy
3 specs:
Pilot: Giant robot suits, think Evangelion and the like. Rockets, Lasers, Cannons, Energy Shields, Two-handed Vibro-Swords etc.
Machinist: turrets, robot pets taken from hunter made tinker exclusive - grenades etc.
Medic: injections, poisons, sprays, healing salves, alchemical weapons etc.
Races: any race choosing the engineering and alchemy profession pairing (yes even tauren or trolls, as they are capable of being engineers and alchemists even now)
Background story: You are an inventor of your people, and have started to weaponize engineering and alchemy to use in combat.

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Guns or Dual Pistols would determine the way tinker deals damage, kinda like in FPS games:

Guns: One big burst of damage at a time - like two-handed weapons currently.
Pistols: Shorter gradual damage at a time - like daggers and one-handed weapons currently.

Like how monks can now choose in Shadowlands if they want one-handed or a two-handed weapon.

I don't think Blizzard can afford to lose so many players if they introduce tinkers as playable class. Who knows though, they've made bad decisions before.

[Arkenonporos]

I don't think Blizzard can afford to lose so many players if they introduce tinkers as playable class. Who knows though, they've made bad decisions before.

Why would you think more choice - choice which you yourself can just not choose - would equal to losing players?
If anything, more player choice only brings new players every single time.

[Adam Jensen]

So we had a huge thread about Necromancer

Then we had a huge thread about Tinkerer

now we have a COMBINED thread?!?!

HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED!!!

We'll get Half Life 3 before we get Tinkers.

[Narwhalosh Whalescream]

Can't necromancer just be a spec for DK? Us warlocks lost an entire spec thanks to demon hunters, nobody else should have to suffer that. The ghoul, usually poorly implemented, has been a staple in DK class fantasy regardless.