America to charge asylum seekers to apply.

[Adam Jensen]

In America we choose truth over facts.

Like Bush getting his instructions from his gut?

[Edge-]

Through Mexico?

Yes. I'm not sure if you're unaware, but despite making progress on rooting out corruption and battling the cartels, they still have a ways to go. And some of the cartels operating there also operate in countries with the asylum seekers are fleeing from, and that's who they're fleeing.

I mean, do you think that these people who are making such a long journey wouldn't have stopped in a closer country if it was safer? They're not exactly making the journey because they'll be welcomed with open arms in the US.

[JohnBrown1917]

Through Mexico?

A country dominated by the same gangs a lot of them are fleeing from? Yes.

Did you have a point?

[Teleros]

Saw this in another thread an thought it was absolutely mind blowing and deserved it’s own thread.

Given the $100s if not $1000s that migrants from all over Africa magically have to hand in order to get to Europe, $50 is nothing. Need many more zeroes on the end TBH. Still, I guess if even a few are discouraged from going to the US by $50 then hey, it's something at least.

[JohnBrown1917]

Given the $100s if not $1000s that migrants from all over Africa magically have to hand in order to get to Europe, $50 is nothing. Need many more zeroes on the end TBH. Still, I guess if even a few are discouraged from going to the US by $50 then hey, it's something at least.

I'd love to know what propaganda channels you watch.

[Citizen T]

This is much less than what it costs me to exercise my Second Amendment right. Something that explicitly states "shall not be infringed"

Less than the cost of a passport.

Hell, it's less than the court fees for filing bankruptcy.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Given the $100s if not $1000s that migrants from all over Africa magically have to hand in order to get to Europe, $50 is nothing. Need many more zeroes on the end TBH. Still, I guess if even a few are discouraged from going to the US by $50 then hey, it's something at least.

If people don't have valid claims that should be sorted by the courts and they should be denied. no legitimate asylum seeker should be faced with no being able to apply because they don't have money for a bullshit fee, not a one.

[Grapemask]

This is much less than what it costs me to exercise my Second Amendment right. Something that explicitly states "shall not be infringed"

Less than the cost of a passport.

Hell, it's less than the court fees for filing bankruptcy.

This is a weird set of false equivalencies.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

This is much less than what it costs me to exercise my Second Amendment right. Something that explicitly states "shall not be infringed"

Less than the cost of a passport.

Hell, it's less than the court fees for filing bankruptcy.

having extra money so you can buy a gun or get a passport to travel is not at all comparable to fleeing for your life with what little you can carry likely from a country that you were already living in poverty in and with out a favorable exchange rate.

mabye if you see such things as more important then actual people dying because they can't pay such a fee you should do some serious reflection on your morals.

[unfilteredJW]

mabye if you see such things as more important then actual people dying because they can't pay such a fee you should do some serious reflection on your morals.

Having helped put Trump in power, they don't have any to reflect on.

[Citizen T]

having extra money so you can buy a gun or get a passport to travel is not at all comparable to fleeing for your life with what little you can carry likely from a country that you were already living in poverty in and with out a favorable exchange rate.

mabye if you see such things as more important then actual people dying because they can't pay such a fee you should do some serious reflection on your morals.

I'm not talking about buying gun, but just the cost to acquire permission to exercise the right. You probably assume no one has ever lost their life due to being forbidden to exercise their 2A right.

what about bankruptcy fees? People who are so burdened that they are unable to feed, clothe or house themselves are forced to pay a fee to the government just to have the consider their circumstances.

A government's concerns should be for it's citizens. In times of plenty, when citizens are fully cared for then it should look outside it's borders and help others.

[JohnBrown1917]

I'm not talking about buying gun, but just the cost to acquire permission to exercise the right. You probably assume no one has ever lost their life due to being forbidden to exercise their 2A right.

what about bankruptcy fees? People who are so burdened that they are unable to feed, clothe or house themselves are forced to pay a fee to the government just to have the consider their circumstances.

A government's concerns should be for it's citizens. In times of plenty, when citizens are fully cared for then it should look outside it's borders and help others.

Yeah, but you don't want either. So cut the bullshit.

[Thee ANCOM]

I'm still waiting on any of these conservatives to answer the simple question of "why don't we want immigrants" that isn't obvious pivoting onto something else.

[Machismo]

I'm still waiting on any of these conservatives to answer the simple question of "why don't we want immigrants" that isn't obvious pivoting onto something else.

That's because admitting they're racists is the quiet part they wink to each other.

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It would appear the site is being overrun by national socialists again.

We haven't seen this many running around for a couple years.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I'm not talking about buying gun, but just the cost to acquire permission to exercise the right. You probably assume no one has ever lost their life due to being forbidden to exercise their 2A right.

the difference between buying a gun it self and having permission to have a gun is meaningless both are about buying a gun. as to what if's about people dying because they don't have the 2A there's a thread that and you should head on over to it if you want to talk about the right to bear arms.

what about bankruptcy fees? People who are so burdened that they are unable to feed, clothe or house themselves are forced to pay a fee to the government just to have the consider their circumstances.

It should likely be done away with but the two still aren't comparable.

A government's concerns should be for it's citizens. In times of plenty, when citizens are fully cared for then it should look outside it's borders and help others.

talk about bullshit don't pretend that you actually care about citizens being cared for.. America can fully take care of there citizen's it just refuses to and that refusal shouldn't be a blanket pass to ignore the plights of other's.

[Xarkan]

I'd love to know what propaganda channels you watch.

Some refugees end up paying exorbitant prices for smugglers..

Though there is a flaw in the assumptions given

If you paid your last 1000 dollars to get out of .. the soviet union.. you would not magically have 50 dollars left.

[lockedout]

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I never got the impression you were a satirical troll user, but spouting something that particularly ridiculous makes me question that conclusion.

Sorry its a Joe Biden quote.

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That's because admitting they're racists is the quiet part they wink to each other.

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It would appear the site is being overrun by national socialists again.

We haven't seen this many running around for a couple years.

You know white people can be immigrants as well, this notion that only non whites are immigrants is racist in of itself.

[Xarkan]

You know white people can be immigrants as well, this notion that only non whites are immigrants is racist in of itself.

Of course racism is really short hand for xenophobia..

Also nazis had no issue putting white people in concentration camps, communists, socialists, gays, and jews, if they were any or all of that the nazis were happy to see you to a camp.

Edit: The last sentence was merely because both racists and nazis were mentioned, i am not making specific claims anyones a nazi..

[JohnBrown1917]

Sorry its a Joe Biden quote.

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You know white people can be immigrants as well, this notion that only non whites are immigrants is racist in of itself.

Its great and all you look up to Biden, but he has nothing to do with this.

We can wait for his excuses to deny refugees in 2021.

[Felya]

You know white people can be immigrants as well, this notion that only non whites are immigrants is racist in of itself.

What do you want to know? How idiotic it is for people escaping persecution, to need a fee to get in? Because nearly a year of test and refugee camps, isn’t enough?