Mega-Thread: Gun Control Thread

[Mayhem]

https://www.google.com/search?client...it+settlements

seems no shortage of settlements though does it.

I am not sure if linking the annual costs of police brutality is helping your argument against protesting police brutality but you do you.

[Thee ANCOM]

really guess that black guy that ran over that girl was just another right winger.

or another right winger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cziOFk5n9Fs

video date is 2014.... seriously?

[Dadwen]

video date is 2014.... seriosuly?

so? I'm sure there or others but that one was the one that still sticks in my mind, it made that much of an impression.

[Mayhem]

if they are blocking traffic with out a permit I'm more pissed they aren't dragged off and arrested, if they are have a permit or on the sidewalks then I'd be upset but the news seems to lack those accounts.

Wait wait, is your argument really that people need to obtain permits to exercise their right to protest?

Well isn't that ironic.

[Elegiac]

if they are blocking traffic with out a permit I'm more pissed they aren't dragged off and arrested, if they are have a permit or on the sidewalks then I'd be upset but the news seems to lack those accounts.

Protesting is a right, hun. Not a privilege.

Driving is a privilege, not a right.

[Dadwen]

Wait wait, is your argument really that people need to obtain permits to exercise their right to protest?

Well isn't that ironic.

if it's blocking public roads yet (we also went over this in the Prison thread) the ALCU acknowledges it's not lawful to block traffic with out a permit.

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Protesting is a right, hun. Not a privilege.

Driving is a privilege, not a right.

your free to protest all you want up to the point it interfere's with mine and others freedoms.

you have the right to protest but you don't have the right to harass or detain other people, hun...

[Thee ANCOM]

so? I'm sure there or others but that one was the one that still sticks in my mind, it made that much of an impression.

good for you, you have to reach back 6 years to bring one (1) example to make your point. when I can think of 3 off the top my head that happend in this year alone.

[Mayhem]

if it's blocking public roads yet (we also went over this in the Prison thread) the ALCU acknowledges it's not lawful to block traffic with out a permit.

Interesting. So you're fine with people deciding something that is clearly against the constitution when it suits you? How convenient.

[Dadwen]

good for you, you have to reach back 6 years to bring one (1) example to make your point. when I can think of 3 off the top my head that happend in this year alone.

problem is as soon as they go against the blockage they are a right winger in your eyes anyway prob even this guy.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...sters-71672388

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Interesting. So you're fine with people deciding something that is clearly against the constitution when it suits you? How convenient.

I'm not fine with people interfering with my freedom's so if they don't care about mine why should I give a dam about their's, or are you saying you can only protest by screwing with other people?

[Mayhem]

if it's blocking public roads yet (we also went over this in the Prison thread) the ALCU acknowledges it's not lawful to block traffic with out a permit.

"The American Civil Liberties Union firmly believes that legislatures can, consistent with the Constitution, impose reasonable limits on firearms sale, ownership, and use, without raising civil liberties concerns."
https://www.aclu.org/blog/civil-libe...on-gun-control

So you are also totally fine with their position on gun rights?

[Thee ANCOM]

problem is as soon as they go against the blockage they are a right winger in your eyes anyway prob even this guy.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...sters-71672388

I thought the point you were trying to make is it's a trend on the left to hit people with cars. so are you conceding that point, and admiting you're wrong?

[Dadwen]

I thought the point you were trying to make is it's a trend on the left to hit people with cars. so are you conceding that point, and admiting you're wrong?

well if you label them right wingers as soon as they hit someone or dislike the blockage I guess they are all right wingers in your eyes.

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"The American Civil Liberties Union firmly believes that legislatures can, consistent with the Constitution, impose reasonable limits on firearms sale, ownership, and use, without raising civil liberties concerns."
https://www.aclu.org/blog/civil-libe...on-gun-control

So you are also totally fine with their position on gun rights?

ALCU also said they don't fight for 2nd admin rights because there are others groups that do that.

but if talking about protests and what's legal or not they (ALCU) seems to be a good place to start, if it was about gun laws I'd go to the (abit useless NRA) or other 2nd amendment site.

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I thought the point you were trying to make is it's a trend on the left to hit people with cars. so are you conceding that point, and admiting you're wrong?

I thought we were talking about the blocks only pissing me off?

to piss the right people off, its not most american's, just you, for some weird reason.

[Mayhem]

I'm not fine with people interfering with my freedom's so if they don't care about mine why should I give a dam about their's, or are you saying you can only protest by screwing with other people?

You are not aware that you're currently making pro-gun control arguments, are you? It's not much of protest if it's not getting noticed by people not protesting. Also, how would a permit change that they are interfering with your freedom? If they have a permit to block the only road you can take to get where you want would it suddenly not be an interference?

[Roxinius]

And by that proving that guns in the hands of civilians are utterly useless to protect against an authoritarian government, well done in removing one of your arguments yourself.

no its proving that the majority of gun owners really dont give 2 shits about the trash out there who have spent years upon years ridiculing us because we own guns fuck them they made their beds they can lay in them

[Mayhem]

ALCU also said they don't fight for 2nd admin rights because there are others groups that do that.

but if talking about protests and what's legal or not they (ALCU) seems to be a good place to start, if it was about gun laws I'd go to the (abit useless NRA) or other 2nd amendment site.

Interesting, albeit the 1st and 2nd using the same language it is totally different and the ACLU can only be used as a source of knowledge for one of them.

[Dadwen]

You are not aware that you're currently making pro-gun control arguments, are you? It's not much of protest if it's not getting noticed by people not protesting. Also, how would a permit change that they are interfering with your freedom? If they have a permit to block the only road you can take to get where you want would it suddenly not be an interference?

I can't own a machine gun (without a special permit) and you can't protest in the street(without a special permit) seem to all work out...

if they have a permit it's something I can plan around and EMT traffic also knows what's blocked.

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Interesting, albeit the 1st and 2nd using the same language it is totally different and the ACLU can only be used as a source of knowledge for one of them.

again we are talking about the 1st something they profess to specialize in not the 2nd, should I go to the NRA to show what's a legal protest?

[Mayhem]

no its proving that the majority of gun owners really dont give 2 shits about the trash out there who have spent years upon years ridiculing us because we own guns fuck them they made their beds they can lay in them

Ultimately proving them right. The only amendment you care about is the 2nd, period.

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I can't own a machine gun and you can't protest in the street seem to all work out...

if they have a permit it's something I can plan around and EMT traffic also knows what's blocked.

So needing a permit to obtain a firearm would also be totally fine then.

again we are talking about the 1st something they profess to specialize in not the 2nd, should I go to the NRA to show what's a legal protest?

They profess to specialize in civil liberties, civil liberties include all rights, not just the 1st.

[Dadwen]

Ultimately proving them right. The only amendment you care about is the 2nd, period.

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So needing a permit to obtain a firearm would also be totally fine then.



They profess to specialize in civil liberties, civil liberties include all rights, not just the 1st.

for standard guns and protesting on the sidewalk you don't need a permit...
to own a Machine gun or protest in the street, you both need a special permit...

how many pages of info do they have on the 2nd (the one page I could find is them disagreeing with the supreme court.)

Personally I think they are about useless most of the time (ALCU) but when talking about protest it seems the best sourse to use that the farther left wingers will even look at.

[Zython]

no its proving that the majority of gun owners really dont give 2 shits about the trash out there who have spent years upon years ridiculing us because we own guns fuck them they made their beds they can lay in them

Notice how you Say own guns, not use guns? Really telling on yourself here.

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for standard guns and protesting on the sidewalk you don't need a permit...
to own a Machine gun or protest in the street, you both needs a special permit...

how many pages of info do they have on the 2nd (the one page I could find is them disagreeing with the supreme court.)

Personally I think they are about useless most of the time (ALCU) but when talking about protest it seems the best sourse to use that the farther left wingers will even look at.

"You need the government's permission to protest the government".

Bitch...

[Mayhem]

for standard guns and protesting on the sidewalk you don't need a permit...
to own a Machine gun or protest in the street, you both needs a special permit...

how many pages of info do they have on the 2nd (the one page I could find is them disagreeing with the supreme court.)

how many do they have on protests?

Personally I think they are about useless most of the time (ALCU) but when talking about protest it seems the best sourse to use that the farther left side will even look at.

Ah bullshit, it's the best source because they agree with you on that one point.