I honestly think they just wanted to get rid of Undercity & Teldrassil/culturally revamp the Night Elves and Forsaken, and wrote the story from there. They just didn't do a great job of it (at least not in the short term, when most people think that the two races won't even get new cities).
Yes but Blizzard is obsessed with portraying the Alliance as unquestionably and utterly benevolent. Which is one of the dumbest decisions ever, if you ask me. Humans are dicks you know. They should be dicks in Warcraft too. Not goody two shoes.
And I feel like when we started out in this game, it was different. The Horde had a very bad history obviously, but Stormwind was a kingdom rife with corruption and political turmoil, with the whole Defias storyline. Then Varian came back and he was a dick. After Cata everything went to hell, Garrosh became a psychopath and then the Horde raided their own city (lol, to this day this has to be the dumbest thing to ever happen) and we've been stuck with the noble, selfless, benevolent and boring Alliance ever since.
Like I get it, the writers working for Blizzard are not going to turn this story into Game of Thrones. But their writing is truly, truly awful in my opinion. Like it's genuinely bad enough to make me wonder how they deserve to be paid for it. Even when they have obvious opportunities to create actually interesting stories, they always choose not to. It's sad, I really used to like story, but nowadays I'm just like whatever, it's bad, boring and predictable anyway.
BFA could have been a great story, they just chose to not to (make it one).
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Any narrative that could and might have made the Alliance instigators, and really not that much considering Sylvanas had already killed Calia and other innocent Forsaken as others mentioned, giving the Alliance plenty of reason to try to re-take Lordaeron, would have been a better route than to rehash the corrupt Warchief story and vilify the Horde all over again only to splinter the Horde, and turn Baine into a traitorous dog and nearly ruin Varok. But Sylvanas, the victim of a mass genocide, turning around and doing the same to another elf race who had really done nothing to her or The Horde made her character and that aspect of the lore irreversibly bad.
But that would require the Alliance to actually do something bad in-game. We can't have that.
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The problem is that the Teldrassil attack was a reactionary event already, remember by the point it had happened the Alliance had already been openly attacking Horde forces in Silithus and even the attack only occurred as the Alliance thought intel indicated (another Shaw screw up) the Horde was going to bring a reinforcing army to control the zone and so preemptively sent nearly the whole Night Elf army there (a bit of a daft move considering the constant border skirmishes with Orgrimmar) and Sylvanas leapt at the opportunity. The only things that never made sense about the whole thing was Saurfang just randomly deciding what is and isn't honourable after planning and carrying out the poisoning of a whole village and it's guard and then decided executing Malf after a fair fight was a step too far and Sylvanas suddenly having some weird ideas about hope and it leading to the burning randomly (till they later decided "no actually she totally meant to burnt it all along despite setting it up for an occupation").
I mean even if they changed the order around so that Undercity was blown up first people would still say Sylvanas was the big bad because she burnt the tree randomly.
We can't have the Alliance be the aggressors, how else would we recycle the Horde Redemption story arc a fiftieth time?
Also, if we were going this route it would have been a more interesting story if N'Zoth's cultists burned Teldrassil in a false-flag whereas Sylvanas carried out the War of Thorns as a conventional war to secure Orgrimmar's borders given the night elves were among those generally pushing for war on the Horde, and as revenge for the Alliance sacking the Undercity. Pinning Teldrassil on the Horde would have escalated a tit-for-tat into a full-scale global war with actual moral greyness, instead of The Alliance and the Horde Rebellion going up against an omnicidal nutcase who propagandized and information-controlled most of the Horde into backing her up.
There's a lot of ways this storyline could've gone better, but they picked the laziest route possible because of fucking course they did.
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Genn is close friend and Father Figure for Anduin, also he is kind of Warmonger, on Alliance side, who wishes vengeance against Sylvanas
so after Arathi events, he could convince Anduin,t hat Calia deserves vengeance, Alliance would conquer Undercity. forsaken would flee to Kalimdor, and Horde would decide to kick of Night Elves both as Vengeance and as guarantee that Alliance wouldnot have foothold in Kalimor
it would open amazing opportunities
1. really GREY story
2. Alliance think they do Justice and they are right, and HOrde think Alliance betrayed peace, and they are right as well
3. Alliance would have inner struggle between survived Kaldorei and remaining allies. also Worgen would feel bad, because of them, thier saviors ended in bottom
4. part of Kaldorei would move to EK and make new settlements
5. Horde too might have some sruggle but eat elss point, as yeah Sylvanas shot first arrow, but it was alliance who started war.
and so on
do you notice, that Blizzard sucks at making reasons of war in game called World Of War craft?
Vanilla - orcs want trees. 5/10
TBC - eye of the storm/ruins of outlands (outdoor pvp) - we fight BL and Illidari and instead of uniting, we fight for ruins? 3/10
WotLK - wintergrasp amde no sense, but after Wrathgate, Isle of Conquest was good 10/10
Cata - Garros wants conquest - 10/10
MoP - fighting for resources? - 9/10
WoD - Ashran 0/10 for artifact, which nobody has seen
Legion - Towers- 0/10 BL is killing all wtf
BfA - start war anew for what? - 0 effort again
and so on
I feel the whole BFA story leaves the horde looking way worse and the alliance mostly justified. And that's shit. So yeah I agree it should've been reversed.
Have we been sleeping through this expansion? Sylvanus wanted war. She wanted death, lots of death, to fuel her plot powers. It would have made no sense for the Alliance to start crap. The alliance leader was trying to schedule pow wows and swap meets.
Sorry, but your Horde is the sole reason for the last expansion and the upcoming expansion.
As much as cinematic was epic, story was solid... all up until the magic ship and childish BS like that. Who makes this stuff up?