In a holocaust you try to eliminate all of that spices/race/culture what a farmer does is the opposite, he keeps farm animals alive and multiplying. With only vegans there would be "no" farm animals = holocaust. You can call farmers massmurderes (if you see animals as equal humans) but then you also have to agree that vegans are working for the extinction of farm animals.
Maybe its a good thing all animals that cant survive in the wild dies, maybe its good for the climate with fewer animals. But I dont think so, I dont want to tell my kid that there used to be alot of animals but we decided it was better they "all" die.
First of all, the next argument you win, will be your first. Secondly, take your own advice and lastly, where did I say anything about healthy eating?
I've experienced your ridiculousness in the PoFo, I am under no illusions that I could convince you of anything....you are facts allergic. I'm just not about to let you spout your bullshit unchallenged.
So....did you look up lab grown meat yet, so that maybe you've learned something for once?
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Farm animals were created by farmers. The cows, pigs, goats, chickens, etc. that you eat now are not natural animals. Furthermore, numerous wild animals are often killed just for the production of livestock, whether it be predators or animals in competition for the graze areas or even just the animals that are cleared for the land.
There's no shock here that the most vocal pro meat eating activists on this site, know literally nothing about the topic.
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Farm animals were created by farmers. The cows, pigs, goats, chickens, etc. that you eat now are not natural animals. Furthermore, numerous wild animals are often killed just for the production of livestock, whether it be predators or animals in competition for the graze areas or even just the animals that are cleared for the land.
There's no shock here that the most vocal pro meat eating activists on this site, know literally nothing about the topic.[/QUOTE]
Your just telling obvious things. Whats next you will tell that our fruits and vegetables also have been modified and they didnt use to look like that in the wild?
they keeps livestock alive? rotfl? by killing them? they at best are keeping the specie existing, the individuals are suffering literally a fate worse than anything made in the lagers.
oh, you dont want to tell your kid that we decided it was better they "all" die? then stop to eat them, you are killing them anyway, with or without an hypotetical extinction
What a pointless discussion with you. You used it as an example of something that once was but now isn't any longer. How the fuck can you compare that to the meat production industry, when that is a multi billion dollar industry, and rooster fighting was a ghetto pastime?
What kind of a brain dead mumbo jumbo comparison is that to make your point? What is wrong with you?
"When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown
There is a line when it comes to testing on animals. If its some drug on a monkey that can save millions of people then oh well you gotta do what you gotta do. On the other hand, some researchers are intentionally freezing iguanas to see how much cold they can take before dying ( it started after a hypothesis that Florida iguanas are adapting better to cold than say Cuban iguanas) ok... so torturing them for what purpose? Just to know how much they can take? This helps zero people. I'd like to put these "researchers" in a meat locker naked and see how much they can take.
So pretty much if its for a really worthy cause ok on animal testing, if it's just for the hell of it, no.
I don't understand this. First of all, there would actually be an abundance of food once all the fields we're using to grow animal feed could grow it directly for humans instead. Secondly, have you ever been to a vegan restaurant? When I lived in Texas they were always packed with a 1+ hour wait time during the weekends. Here in Florida, a vegan restaurant opened amidst a pandemic and is hiring after being in business only a few months because their business is booming. There's absolutely no reason to believe the restaurant economy would be destroyed unless they failed to adapt. Nor is there any reason to believe millions of people would starve unless they're the "I'd rather die than be vegan" types. This also completely ignores lab created meat, although, if you haven't tried any plant-based alternatives lately I find many of them better than the real thing.
I saw someone ask what would happen to the animals: we'd stop breeding them. Nobody's releasing 70 billion farm animals into the wild. Chickens, in particular, wouldn't survive beyond 2 months anyway as they're bred to be huge for meat and if they're not 'harvested' within 6 weeks they usually die from heart attacks or other issues (such as not being able to move under their own weight) because their size is too much for their systems.
"We must now recognize that the greatest threat of freedom for us all is if we go back to eating ourselves out from within." - John Anderson