Shadowlands -- Castle Nathria World First [Megathread]

[OokOok]

121 pages of EU cry babies. You don't see Asia crying and they can't even partake in the world first race because they're 2 days behind. The only way they ever win world first is when Eu/US guilds get banned like in dragonsoul or Yogg saron.

How about next tier Limit turns off their stream for every boss and we see just how far behind Echo really is, let's see how well they do when they can't watch Limit streams 16 hours in advance. Then we can really see how much this headstart is actually not a big deal based on them having that going for them every race.
Or how about Echo just join NA servers? you know considering limit has 3 EU players with 0 lag issues.

BUT NO. you're right, it's much better to sit here crying, creating excuses and expecting Blizzard to make changes like global release because of 2 guilds of 60 players out of 3,000,000

[ifrah]

Wow, another thread derailed into the good old stuff. This time NA timezone advantage, next time EU welfare perhaps... Time will tell.
Until these super exciting world first races are arranged on LAN environment, there won't be a level playground. Whoever has the advantage, and how negligible/significant it is, I won't even try to estimate. The whole topic is more or less pointless as this is the standard since day 1, and is very unlikely to change.

You probably don't see much Asia crying here as the whole game is almost nonexistent there, and banned in china to boot. All that despite of the poor ass-kissing attempts of Pandaria, oh poor Blizzard.

[Specialka]

121 pages of EU cry babies. You don't see Asia crying and they can't even partake in the world first race because they're 2 days behind. The only way they ever win world first is when Eu/US guilds get banned like in dragonsoul or Yogg saron.

How about next tier Limit turns off their stream for every boss and we see just how far behind Echo really is, let's see how well they do when they can't watch Limit streams 16 hours in advance. Then we can really see how much this headstart is actually not a big deal based on them having that going for them every race.
Or how about Echo just join NA servers? you know considering limit has 3 EU players with 0 lag issues.

BUT NO. you're right, it's much better to sit here crying, creating excuses and expecting Blizzard to make changes like global release because of 2 guilds of 60 players out of 3,000,000

Because Asia has no one up to par to do it ? While Limit started 16h before than Echo. Though I very much do not care and like all the popcorn and salt, I find it amusing that you can't recognized that Limit had a headstart in this.

[Relapses]

You probably don't see much Asia crying here as the whole game is almost nonexistent there, and banned in china to boot. All that despite of the poor ass-kissing attempts of Pandaria, oh poor Blizzard.

Do you enjoy just making shit up on the internet?

[Baneto]

Lets ignore the salty crybaby-shit for a while and focus on the rest of the race.

Top 5 isnt settled yet and is still up to grabs, Echo got second place, but what about the rest?
Can Method kill the generals and propel their way to a 3rd spot or will it go to Pieces or BDGG?

[SeIex]

Wow, another thread derailed into the good old stuff. This time NA timezone advantage, next time EU welfare perhaps... Time will tell.
Until these super exciting world first races are arranged on LAN environment, there won't be a level playground. Whoever has the advantage, and how negligible/significant it is, I won't even try to estimate. The whole topic is more or less pointless as this is the standard since day 1, and is very unlikely to change.

You probably don't see much Asia crying here as the whole game is almost nonexistent there, and banned in china to boot. All that despite of the poor ass-kissing attempts of Pandaria, oh poor Blizzard.

Apparently you live in another reality. Wow isn't banned in china. In fact, it's huge over there. Just looking at the top 9 raiding guilds atm on raider io, 3 are chinese. 5 in the top 20. And alpha, a chinese guild, got world 3rd in 3 out of 5 tiers last expansion. Don't make BS up. Raider io only has the patience to track the top chinese guilds(wowprogress doesn't track them at all) and guilds that submit their own kills due to issues with their API but there are a crap load more untracked chinese guilds going all the way down the ranks.

[Makabreska]

Every time no name accounts troll WF threads with "16h", and each time peeps fall or it.

[Yarathir]

121 pages of EU cry babies. You don't see Asia crying and they can't even partake in the world first race because they're 2 days behind. The only way they ever win world first is when Eu/US guilds get banned like in dragonsoul or Yogg saron.

How about next tier Limit turns off their stream for every boss and we see just how far behind Echo really is, let's see how well they do when they can't watch Limit streams 16 hours in advance. Then we can really see how much this headstart is actually not a big deal based on them having that going for them every race.
Or how about Echo just join NA servers? you know considering limit has 3 EU players with 0 lag issues.

BUT NO. you're right, it's much better to sit here crying, creating excuses and expecting Blizzard to make changes like global release because of 2 guilds of 60 players out of 3,000,000

I see more people being sore winners who don't want to give up their advantage but at the same time insist there's no advantage.

The worst EU trolling I see is no-name accounts going "haha 16 hr" "haha echo still won,"

Hardly the virulent, toxic trolling I was sold on.

[MrPaladinGuy]

Limit and Echo are 10/10 while literally no one else even made it to 9/10. Really surprised by this.

[Relapses]

Limit and Echo are 10/10 while literally no one else even made it to 9/10. Really surprised by this.

SLG is the real cockblock this tier. Reminds me a lot of Blast Furnace back in BRF (though it seems Triple D Donny is easier than 'ol Blackhand).

[Xath]

Right now at 4pm, EU turns on Twitch and watches Limit clear more than half the instance while they can't do anything. That's surely better you are right.

And the only boss they couldn't watch was the only one that took significant time til sledge thinking.

[Druitz]

121 pages of EU cry babies. You don't see Asia crying and they can't even partake in the world first race because they're 2 days behind. The only way they ever win world first is when Eu/US guilds get banned like in dragonsoul or Yogg saron.

How about next tier Limit turns off their stream for every boss and we see just how far behind Echo really is, let's see how well they do when they can't watch Limit streams 16 hours in advance. Then we can really see how much this headstart is actually not a big deal based on them having that going for them every race.
Or how about Echo just join NA servers? you know considering limit has 3 EU players with 0 lag issues.

BUT NO. you're right, it's much better to sit here crying, creating excuses and expecting Blizzard to make changes like global release because of 2 guilds of 60 players out of 3,000,000

It's not like they have been playing PTR xD Watching limit tactics is not even close to 16 hours advantage. I am not on any side but let's be honest with yourself - world first race wil never be fair and will never be. if EU want to win they must be much, much better than US

[sarym13]

So what's up with Method? Did they make an announcement that they're not pushing hard for world first this expansion or are they losing their world first competitive nature?

[Gorsameth]

So what's up with Method? Did they make an announcement that they're not pushing hard for world first this expansion or are they losing their world first competitive nature?

Their entire team left and created Echo, getting #2?

Seems a bit presumptuous to assume Sco could rebuild it from scratch in time to challenge this race.

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Limit and Echo are 10/10 while literally no one else even made it to 9/10. Really surprised by this.

Don't underestimate the difference between Echo/Limit and everyone else.

They are in a league of their own.

[Azzurri]

What's crazy is that there is only 16 Alliance in the top 100.

I know it's been like this for ages now, but man I'd love it if it was like a 60/40 split.

[Makabreska]

What's crazy is that there is only 16 Alliance in the top 100.

I know it's been like this for ages now, but man I'd love it if it was like a 60/40 split.

Not gonna happen, unless Blizz swings racials towards Alliance. And even then, mainly WF contenders would switch.

[Clozer]

And the only boss they couldn't watch was the only one that took significant time til sledge thinking.

and then killed generals 6 hours faster thinking

[Yarathir]

Not gonna happen, unless Blizz swings racials towards Alliance. And even then, mainly WF contenders would switch.

It has to do with both the severity of the benefits in terms of racial or what have you and the time.

The things the Alliance offer have to be so good that they will tempt Horde players into rerolling. They then have to be good for long enough that Horde guilds don't just switch back and forth but instead stick for at least a little while so that the rest of the community has time to follow.

But this won't ever happen, so anyone's best hope is cross-faction raiding.

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So what's up with Method? Did they make an announcement that they're not pushing hard for world first this expansion or are they losing their world first competitive nature?

Method is in a bit of a mess. I assume that even if they will climb back up to the top, it'll take a little while at least.

[Woobels]

There's a big ass gap between Limit/Echo and the other guilds this tier, was hoping for other guilds to be more competitive.

[MrPaladinGuy]

Don't underestimate the difference between Echo/Limit and everyone else.

They are in a league of their own.

That's exactly what I meant, to see a gap like that without exploits being used is unheard of.

What's crazy is that there is only 16 Alliance in the top 100.

Of which literally just 2 are NA guilds, and 1 is rank 99.

There's a big ass gap between Limit/Echo and the other guilds this tier, was hoping for other guilds to be more competitive.

Same