OnlyFans is cleaning up its image.

[Biglog]

It's not cleaning up it's image out of some sort of moral epiphany. It's purely about profits and greed. They built their business on sex workers and made a fortune, but now they want to cash-in even more by going public. This requires getting out of adult content and completely messing over everyone they built their business on.

In the end this is going to go down as a colossal mistake and like a 101 lesson on how to destroy your own successful business. Ideally all OF content creators find another platform that allows them to continue and it becomes hugely successful. As for OF, inevitably they'll be left with near-zero content creators and few customers, which seems fitting. There are already other better platforms for PG content or for fully pornographic content, so I'm not sure what market OF thinks they'll be left with. OF had a successful niche and just threw it away.

Blizzard did the same in about 2010 when they took wow and casualized it being greedy and hoping to turn their 12M subs into 20M. Instead they turned it into 5M, and probably closer to 1M now.

[s_bushido]

Let's be real, seeing barely 18 hoes stuff dildos up their beavers for a couple dollars was plain degenerate, it was creating a horde of little retards who had completely fucked up world views and would be even more dysfunctional in the future.

Imagine unironically calling things "degenerate" just because you'd rather they be scraping by at some shitty minimum wage job instead.

Listen to me god dammit, there were amongus shaped dildos involved, do you understand what the target audience really was?

It was popular for about a minute as a party game for adults...

[Magical Mudcrab]

They are asking for business to go bankrupt, and the business is like "sure, let's try that, sounds cool". Not sure which party is more stupid: the one making the request, or the one saying sure thing to it. Hope they at least saved couple dollars up before that

From what I can tell, Onlyfans seems to use different payment providers/processors depending on the type of content as a means to mitigate chargeback issues (i.e.: essentially load balancing chargebacks so no single payment provider is likely to get irate), but seems to primarily be reliant on Stripe. If it is Stripe making the request, then it's because Onlyfans has been disregarding Stripe's policy on pornography or obscene material. Stripe wouldn't be in the wrong in this instance, as their policies are well known in the tech sphere (mostly because they're one of the few payment providers with double-digit market share).

Just as an addendum:
PornHub uses the payment processor Probiller. If Onlyfans were so inclined, they could switch payment providers and continue having explicit content. This seems to be related to investor issues, rather than simply issues with their payment platform.

[jonnysensible]

only wholesome feet pics

[Zan15]

Cleaning up its image is a funny way of saying "going out of business."

man those angel investors and hedge funds are going to sue the shit out of them for not telling them about these long term plans.

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It's not cleaning up it's image out of some sort of moral epiphany. It's purely about profits and greed. They built their business on sex workers and made a fortune, but now they want to cash-in even more by going public. This requires getting out of adult content and completely messing over everyone they built their business on.

In the end this is going to go down as a colossal mistake and like a 101 lesson on how to destroy your own successful business. Ideally all OF content creators find another platform that allows them to continue and it becomes hugely successful. As for OF, inevitably they'll be left with near-zero content creators and few customers, which seems fitting. There are already other better platforms for PG content or for fully pornographic content, so I'm not sure what market OF thinks they'll be left with. OF had a successful niche and just threw it away.

Blizzard did the same in about 2010 when they took wow and casualized it being greedy and hoping to turn their 12M subs into 20M. Instead they turned it into 5M, and probably closer to 1M now.

They make a lot more money on private investor and selling them stakes then they would make on an IPO sale.

[Gaidax]

man those angel investors and hedge funds are going to sue the shit out of them for not telling them about these long term plans.

The last thing these investors and hedge funds want is to get mixed into some child pronography scandal that seems to be brewing for OnlyFans. Reputation is worth A LOT of $$ and not quite as easily recovered.

[Zan15]

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I'll give you an example, and it's a big reason why Girls Gone Wild got hit so hard. Let One and I do mean One persons underaged daughter or kid who has a lot of power or influence gets recorded and something gets leaked and it's not supposed OnlyFans could be on the hook for Millions, then come the flood cates of other lawsuits.


That is why this is happening none of them give a shit about pornography, it's about liability that is why MasterCard and other banks are like FUUUUK THAT. Shit there is even concerns of sex workers incorporating Onlyfans in their business models as well again Trafficking.

No MasterCard doesn't care per say, but they do NOT want to be tied into that shit when the it gets exposed as it's slowly beginning to.

Hasn't hurt other providers like google or facebook. Do you know how many millions of these kind of things happen each year on those services?


Also it used to be illegal for companies to conspire together to effect a company like this but "payment processors" seem to get away with it all the time.

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The last thing these investors and hedge funds want is to get mixed into some child pronography scandal that seems to be brewing for OnlyFans. Reputation is worth A LOT of $$ and not quite as easily recovered.

didn't stop them the first couple rounds they got funding.

Its just now that the payment processors pushed their near monopoly strangle hold on them that they are all bailing out of investing.

If investors were that worried specifically about CP there would be a lot of people selling stakes in google, facebook, twitter, et all.

[Egomaniac]

Let's be real, seeing barely 18 hoes stuff dildos up their beavers for a couple dollars was plain degenerate, it was creating a horde of little retards who had completely fucked up world views and would be even more dysfunctional in the future.

Listen to me god dammit, there were amongus shaped dildos involved, do you understand what the target audience really was?

All this will change is that a new site will be pop up doing the exact same thing.

[Gaidax]

didn't stop them the first couple rounds they got funding.

Its just now that the payment processors pushed their near monopoly strangle hold on them that they are all bailing out of investing.

If investors were that worried specifically about CP there would be a lot of people selling stakes in google, facebook, twitter, et all.

The difference is that BBC is sniffing around and they recently found some legit child porn there, ofc OnlyFans cleaned it up - but the crosshairs are up now.

It's not payments or crap like that, nobody wants to touch shit like potentially being tied up to child porn with a 5ft pole. It's not worth the $$, especially for said investors and hedge funds that have these startups and shit dime a dozen. It's just a major risk nobody wants to deal with.

It's really up to them, I find it silly that a bunch of randos in MMO-C try to teach these sharks what to do, don't worry - they are aware of quite a bit.

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All this will change is that a new site will be pop up doing the exact same thing.

Yes, that's why it's ultimately unimportant.

There will be a spin off, another spin off and another 500 spin offs.

So I'm not even sure why people are so invested, you will get your Jaina pr0n just fine on some other site bois.

[Zan15]

The difference is that BBC is sniffing around and they recently found some legit child porn there, ofc OnlyFans cleaned it up - but the crosshairs are up now.

It's not payments or crap like that, nobody wants to touch shit like potentially being tied up to child porn with a 5ft pole. It's not worth the $$, especially for said investors and hedge funds that have these startups and shit dime a dozen. It's just a major risk nobody wants to deal with.

It's really up to them, I find it silly that a bunch of randos in MMO-C try to teach these sharks what to do, don't worry - they are aware of quite a bit.

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Again you could sadly do the same search on youtube, twitter, facebook, etc etc and come up with waaaaaaaaay worse results even with their massive effort in preventing this from happening.

Don't think anyone is trying to teach them what to do, they are just commenting on it.
They manage to fuck up quite a bit on their own without any help from us at all. Want to short some Stonks bro?


It everything to do with payment processors for which 3 companies just about completely own the market. They have always acted in a coordinated manor that if it was done in many other industries they would be smacked down with antitrust lawsuits.

They can institute the same protections and monitoring/moderation that the big 3 do and roll out the marketing blitz and the payment processors would have to explain why they won't accept their product while accepting all processing from those sources.

Guess we will see if they make it. Guess the billion dollars in financing they were looking for will be just hundreds of millions instead.

[Stormspark]

Nobody claiming they can't do it, it's simply confusing and somewhat disruptive to the many users who consider OF as the go-to for indie porn. Sure there are plenty of alternatives, porn will find a way. This however is OF clearly shooting its own foot...maybe.

Like I don't get it honestly. OF was designed for any content at the start but what chef/naturist/musician/etc would want to sell their work on what is normally considered indie adult content? They should have taken the site template and renamed it to another site for the non-adult side.

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Were those specifics listed? They just mention "sexually explicit" which could be anything outside of nudity.

They aren't just shooting their own foot. They are blowing their whole leg off with a shotgun.

[Rennadrel]

@Attackrabbit

The BBC posted a follow up investigative article today, with leaked documents from the site providing more clarity on WHY they are banning porn content.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58255865

So the tl;dr of this article is that OnlyFans moderators are lazy and were intentionally allowing illegal content to exist on the platform because they are greedy. There were effectively unwritten rules surrounding illegal content despite said content being against the terms of service. If an account was making money, the account would stay even if they were posting illegal content (which included but was not limited to child porn, incest and bestiality). If it was a low interaction account not drawing in much money posting illegal content, they canned it.

I'm actually gonna give BBC props for this article, because it's really lengthy but it shows just how scathing and deep seated the issues with OnlyFans goes. Their payment provider, ProBiller doesn't give a damn about porn and is one of the few processors that allows adult websites to generate revenue through a payment system, however a lot of the issues involving the website are absolutely disturbing.

[Cosmic Janitor]

I mean, I really don’t care. Their site, they get to change their rules whenever they want. Accept it or find another one.

I very much doubt most of us care as in actually care about the site, we are just baffled by the utter failure of management here.

[Tabrotar]

I don't get the point of this. They clearly have a specific market and no amount of censorship on the site is going to change that image or clientele.

They must have some kind of plan in mind, they must need the funding for some kind of growth that they forecast will eclipse their porn sales.

Nah, it´s the creditcard and check companys who basically said: We want you to do this or we won´t do ANY buisness with you" and they also mean the creators of onlyfans personally, and good luck doing anything on many countrys with only cash.

[SunspotAnims]

It really seems like time for a service specifically for erotic creators to enter the market. I know it's easy to groan about women making a sizable income by sharing pictures of their feet to internet thirstlords but I have good reasons to respect the hustle and it does suck to see sex workers be constantly shoved out of the platforms that have enabled them to take control over how they use their bodies to make income.

I don't know, it really feels like there'd be a major platform by now that is built specifically for erotic creators' interests. I'm sure there are some smaller ones out there but hopefully now we'll see the rise of an actually stable platform for sex workers.

[Queen of Hamsters]

... I am such a sweet summer child.

I had no idea OnlyFans was so entrenched in adult content. I thought it was some raunchy pictures from "celebs" (influencers) and that was it.
Gonna be interesting to see if OF have offed themselves with this move.

[Themius]

The last thing these investors and hedge funds want is to get mixed into some child pronography scandal that seems to be brewing for OnlyFans. Reputation is worth A LOT of $$ and not quite as easily recovered.

I don't think that was ever a problem...you're ignoring the oligopoly of payment processors. There were independent people in the past that had their entire bank accounts closed because they sold pictures of themselves online... this has nothing to do with children.

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I mean, I really don’t care. Their site, they get to change their rules whenever they want. Accept it or find another one.

You should care because the issue is the oligopoly of payment processors that can force things like this on the entire populace of the fucking world

[szechuan]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/20/2...x-masturbation

[Ashleyxoxo]

It’s not the latest fad anymore, so they’re trying to Tik-Tok revamp it up.

[s_bushido]

If their survival depends on platforming kiddy porn then they shouldn’t be around. They’re unable to sufficiently moderate and have turned a blind eye in the past. Hence, this.

Having done precisely zero research into the topic, I'm going to say that the hand-wringing over child porn related to this has the same exact energy as the hand-wringing over child endangerment/indoctrination when it comes to LGBT issues. Puritanical fucks (and bigots in general) will try to associate that activity with literally anything they find to be unacceptable.