Introducing the World of Warcraft Community Council

[Crixes1]

Yay, more ways for blizzard to ignore us. Lol..

[Mendzia]

Very good idea on paper... but probably 5-6 years too late...
They can pick whatever they want... so nothing will probably change.
From now the devs will now probably say 'we listened our council' after introducing another horrible idea.
The community should vote for their representative at X issue instead and that could work.

... and WTF is this WoW YT channel with 50 subs and random Korean arena???

[EbaumsTipster]

Yay, more ways for blizzard to ignore us. Lol..

Why not apply?

[arkanon]

Isn't that what the existing forums are for? So is blizzard going to ignore those forums now?

They fired their entire community team a couple years back, now they are asking for volunteers to do that same job, but for free. Think about it, its genius really - now whenever someone criticizes the community, they can just say "well you guys moderate and control it, its out of our hands!"

[exsanguinate]

You wouldn't have to make such a circus if you just admitted your mistakes. "We screwed up, we'll do it better" and that's it. There is absolutely no need for such a filter. This is just another way to develop nonsense and dump feedback you don't want to hear.

[Gadzooks]

Fun fact - The video wasn't even uploaded to the official channel. The channel it's on has ~20 subscribers, and only 1 other video (some arena match from Asia).

* slow clapping intensifies *

Team 2 has this bizarre habit of never directly engaging with their customers. Which is why "solutions" like this council are needed in the first place. It's like a clown world cycle of failure. It's just another layer between the devs in their ivory towers...er, sorry, their "dojo", and the players. It's horseshit.

The Players: "The devs don't listen to us. We talk until we're blue in the face, and nothing changes. We talk on the WoW Forums, the WoW Reddit, on YouTube, on MMO-Champions, and it's like they don't even know we exist, and Ion keeps telling us we just don't get it. The only way to get their attention is to throw larger and larger temper tantrums, or stop paying. And even then, they react to us with disdain."

The Devs: "Let's make a curated forum that locks out everyone but people we approve of, and only allow posts we approve of, and we'll tell players there they just don't get it. What's that? Players who unsubbed? /spit."

[EbaumsTipster]

Isn't that what the existing forums are for? So is blizzard going to ignore those forums now? And isn't this basically "Community Managers", but without having to pay them?

The WoW forums have proved themselves worthy of ignoring. They are dogshit and even worse than MMOC and Wowhead combined, really stupid fuckers on there.

[hulkgor]

I asked a question I didn't make a statement... You Blizzard stans are terrible to discuss anything subjective with, you are all so super defensive about the game now. Blizzard really does have a toxic community if people like you are all thats left.

Terrible to discuss anything when you made a comment that i found funny? Toxic? Dude, take a deep breath, all will be fine.

Toxic, lol.

[Saltysquidoon]

Why is blizzard the only company on earth that has such a consistently hard time parsing feedback? Even when other devs actively choose to ignore feedback it's because they believe their path is better (insert 300 years meme).

Only blizzard consistently pushes this narrative that feedback is this impossible legendary fish that only the greatest of fishermen using the most specialized tools can catch.

[oathy]

Thing is they always had amazing feedback on the BETA forums.
when you have 1,000's of people saying the same thing it might be time to listen.
WOD/BFA/SL core issues that affected those expansions were ignored.

GreenJesus is right.

Ion always comes across as saying they listen to feedback but very little changes.
they can add a million new mounts or transmogs if classes/specs are boring that's going
to impact the entire game.

[Necomis]

Blizz you're trying to hard.

[reznormuradin]

I like that the bliz reps are overly representing women.

[Every Pwny]

Why does this link to a youtube channel with 35 subscribers and one other chinese pvp video from 6 years ago?

[Jester Joe]

They fired their entire community team a couple years back, now they are asking for volunteers to do that same job, but for free. Think about it, its genius really - now whenever someone criticizes the community, they can just say "well you guys moderate and control it, its out of our hands!"

Except there's nothing about moderation in this

[hulkgor]

EVE Online have had such a council for over a decade (going on their 16th different council atm), the difference is, the council representatives are voted by the community, which is something i find kind of weird, since 'celebrities' or streamers will have an easier time getting there due to their influence.

It might actually be interesting, depending on the people who get selected. It can easily turn into a blizzard fan fest, with no real criticism or arguments, which would be a shame.

(And people, this is -not- recruiting moderators for the forums to work for free, geez)

[Yarathir]

Guys, you had this thing from MoP to Legion, you proceeded to ignore it and eventually just condescend to it and attack it.

So since you couldn't deal respectfully with that, I just assume that what you're looking for is a shill circle.

https://twitter.com/magdalenadk/stat...529282?lang=en

[Clozer]

Why not apply?

They already had this kind of forum. It was hidden from the public and the devs ignored or even attacked the people posting about issues. There is no reason to think that this won't be the same this time around.

[Villager720]

This is certainly …one approach.
I’d probably have tried some form of outreach that didn’t tacitly confirm the forums are a dead medium for feedback.
But it’s their game and their crisis I guess.

[ReD-EyeD]

So...

Delegating communication with community to community itself. Classic Blizzard.

[Overlordd]

Translation: we'll pick the biggest brown nosers, the yes-men, the largest bootlickers to form our council and to shield us from criticism.