3-4 Hour Wait Times... is Your Server Always Full also?

[Dristereau]

Pyrewood Village EU PVE, playing casually but no queue times. My understanding is that for EU Gehennas, Golemagg, Firemaw and Thekal are the only EU English servers with issues, the first three massive realms and Thekal the new PVP realm.

At the end of the day, Blizzard offers free transfers but people don't want to take them, especially with such big realms and things being server specific (questing/dungeons/raids) being on a small realm really limits your opportunities. Everyone goes to these big servers or new servers because that's where the population is. Sure Blizzard could open additional fresh realms but I don't think that helps in the long run where the population splits, decreases rapidly after release and both realms end up as dead in a year. If anything I think they might consider a new server (PVP likely) after Phase 1 is in full swing if things are still a problem.

As for Nethergarde Keep EU PVE, I started playing on there with friends but when I came back to Classic at the end of TBC it was much quieter and my friends had moved to Pyrewood. Based on Ironforge.pro I'd allow free transfers to Mirage Raceway/Pyrewood and close it off.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Ok so for anybody who is in the know, is ironforge.pro a decently accurate place to gather server population data? The community I'm in for WotLK Classic say it isn't. The options I have for the free transfer are 2 servers under 900 players, according to the website.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

It's a business tactic. They can fix the server queues as they did in classic when it first released but migrating to a dead server and then back to your original or another one means you spending more money.

[Ealyssa]

imagine having this dumb take if the discussion was about netflix,or phone sub,imagine waiting 4-5 hours for your movie to load or phone call..ykes dude...this situation is completly unacceptable,any company that pulls this shit is dogshit,objectivly...no dicussion

Imagine being so dumb you can’t understand the difference between a bandwith load from a streaming service and a server load from hosting video games.
Life must be quite hard at that level… Hopefully they can still manage flipping burgers.

[deenman]

Imagine being so dumb you can’t understand the difference between a bandwith load from a streaming service and a server load from hosting video games.
Life must be quite hard at that level… Hopefully they can still manage flipping burgers.

imagine making pathetic excuses for greedy companies,you literaly take their shit,eat it and thank them,sad

[anveena]

Benediction queues peak at like 6 hours during the evenings. My guild isn't leaving and we're just going to wait it out. Thankfully I have little interest in playing atm so hopefully a bunch of people take the free transfers to another server before wotlk comes out.

[Ornerybear]

What's tricky for me, is I'm on the ONLY pvp freshstart realm, Skyfury. You can't transfer off of it.

[time0ut]

I’ve never seen queues like Benediction’s in the 15+ years that I’ve played. Queues are to be expected sometimes for a big server, but this is pretty insane. The blame rests squarely on Blizzard who through sheer incompetence and greed allowed server populations to get so unbalanced.

[Soikona]

It took us 90mins to get a full raid online and inside Sunwell, due to lag, disconnects, people being unable to log in etc. Also took about 10mins to get the loot from each boss, because it had to be done one item at a time and took about 2mins per.

When it was no changes, I didn’t think they would keep this core TBC experience!

[schwank05]

For those playing Classic right now during pre-patch, is your server perpetually full and making you sit in queue for hours on end?


Did you transfer? Are you going to wait it out?


I live on the east coast but my server is PST and even at 12pm/1pm PST I have an hour wait time. It jumps to 3-4 hours around 4pm PST (7pm EST) and it's crazy nutso.


And forgive my ignorance in asking, but why is Blizzard's current (if not only) solution just offering free transfers to absolutely dead servers? Could they not do more layers/phasing/whatever-I-don't-know-how-it-works-hence-me-asking?
Why not not more options for other medium-populated servers as well? I really don't want to leave my server to only pay $30 to transfer back eventually... although, Blizzard would love that.

Come on over to Windseeker we are always looking for more.

[Fkiolaris]

Yeh Nethergarde Keep doesn't have any queues at any time. The server population was great and then that loophole where you could transfer to a dead server then to golemag happened and loads of people's FOMO kicked in and about half the guilds left. There has been a lot of new or returning players though so its fun to play on.

The only thing the server is lacking at the moment is Pugs. A lot of people left because they heard there were always pugs going on golemagg but I suppose it all evens out. Takes you hours to log on then you can find a pug quickly or you wait 30 mins for your ZA group to form.
There is only a couple of active pug servers so there isnt a lot of 25 man raids to do without your guild but if you are in a guild its great. So come join my guild and my pugs!

From what I heard, they actually moved to Pyrewood as Dristereau also says below. Against my better judgement I reactivated my sub and I have to say it's a bit depressing atm the way the server is.

As for Nethergarde Keep EU PVE, I started playing on there with friends but when I came back to Classic at the end of TBC it was much quieter and my friends had moved to Pyrewood. Based on Ironforge.pro I'd allow free transfers to Mirage Raceway/Pyrewood and close it off.

I would agree with the merge of NKG and Mirage Raceway. They seem to be having in total the same population as Pyrewood, so if that's busy enough but without queues (as reported wherever I see) then that would be the sensible thing to do. Most new players after launch will go to the fresh servers anyway unless they have friends in any of the existing ones. The only thing I expect Blizzard to do though is to try and milk server transfers to the last penny.

Ok so for anybody who is in the know, is ironforge.pro a decently accurate place to gather server population data? The community I'm in for WotLK Classic say it isn't. The options I have for the free transfer are 2 servers under 900 players, according to the website.

Yes it is, assuming you understand what is in front of you. People who say otherwise only think about it in terms of absolute numbers (ie telling you exactly how many people are on each server). It doesn't do that because it's sampling from the server populations - it counts people that raid and log their results or do arena and get on the ladder. However, because it's safe to assume that the sampling is consistent across time and servers, you can safely use it to check server stability over time at the very least and to compare populations between servers (with the assumption that approximately the same percentage of each server population raids and logs).

So to be clear, if for example it shows 500 people on your server and the server you have in mind shows 900, then it's reasonably safe to assume that the new server has almost double the population of your current one, without those numbers being the exact populations on either server. However, having just logged into my old server that shows about 750 on my faction, I would say with that number it's not a very busy server.

If I am wrong with any of the above, somebody feel free to correct me.

[Speedlance]

People abused the free transfers to go from 1 lowish server to another then from there to gehennas EU, ofc the servers will be flooded and queues is applied. You get exactly what you wished for :P

[Popastique]

For those playing Classic right now during pre-patch, is your server perpetually full and making you sit in queue for hours on end?


Did you transfer? Are you going to wait it out?


I live on the east coast but my server is PST and even at 12pm/1pm PST I have an hour wait time. It jumps to 3-4 hours around 4pm PST (7pm EST) and it's crazy nutso.


And forgive my ignorance in asking, but why is Blizzard's current (if not only) solution just offering free transfers to absolutely dead servers? Could they not do more layers/phasing/whatever-I-don't-know-how-it-works-hence-me-asking?
Why not not more options for other medium-populated servers as well? I really don't want to leave my server to only pay $30 to transfer back eventually... although, Blizzard would love that.

That's Classic experience, savor it and enjoy while you can

[Xar226]

What's tricky for me, is I'm on the ONLY pvp freshstart realm, Skyfury. You can't transfer off of it.

Same. There was already an hour-long queue at 5:50pm eastern time yesterday (a Tuesday). It gets closer to 80 minutes-2 hours around 7-8pm. That's pretty unacceptable.

At this point the server populations dropping is a self-fulfilling prophecy; they will decline because people are tired of waiting in queues.

[SinR]

Got home yesterday about 4 PDT, guildies on Faerlina were talking about queues in Discord, meanwhile I slipped into Pagle no queue and dicked around on my Paladin all night.

Seriously debating just staying Pagle at this point. other than my former retail GM that asked me (read: PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE) to come play with her guild on Faerlina, I really have no desire to play there.

[Ragu4]

If Maladath doesn't work out I'll go back to my horde on Sulfuras. I dumped my main on Faerlina, which was a mistake. Will prolly have to pay to pull her back to a less populated server if I want to play Shaman.

[Ornerybear]

Same. There was already an hour-long queue at 5:50pm eastern time yesterday (a Tuesday). It gets closer to 80 minutes-2 hours around 7-8pm. That's pretty unacceptable.

At this point the server populations dropping is a self-fulfilling prophecy; they will decline because people are tired of waiting in queues.

Ya all last week it was at most an hour in the late evening EST, but I want to say now I saw 6hrs Monday night. If I login at 5:30pm EST, it's usually about 30min to get in.

[Talon8669]

For those playing Classic right now during pre-patch, is your server perpetually full and making you sit in queue for hours on end?


Did you transfer? Are you going to wait it out?


I live on the east coast but my server is PST and even at 12pm/1pm PST I have an hour wait time. It jumps to 3-4 hours around 4pm PST (7pm EST) and it's crazy nutso.


And forgive my ignorance in asking, but why is Blizzard's current (if not only) solution just offering free transfers to absolutely dead servers? Could they not do more layers/phasing/whatever-I-don't-know-how-it-works-hence-me-asking?
Why not not more options for other medium-populated servers as well? I really don't want to leave my server to only pay $30 to transfer back eventually... although, Blizzard would love that.

Grobbulous only has queues between 7am to 1am; we like to call that the log in sweet spot.

[SinR]

someone needs to make a Bane copypasta for the Megaservers

[Jwelch900]

I know some people are going to say “You can’t do that it will mess up the WoW economy” but I think you should get 1 free server transfer every month. It is an automated process on their end. And if we need to transfer to play the game, cause of 5 hour ques, then you should be able to move again when the realm dies and you have to move again to play.