So Locks are gonna be next eh

[Al Gorefiend]

What about Demon Hunter? They are still painfully exclusive to two polarizing races.

[Garymorilix]

All the latter three races you mentioned have historically had warlocks.

Not the playable ones didn't.

People seem to forget that we don't just play any Night Elf/ Tauren/ whatever.
We play a specific subsection of races with their own cultures.

The playable Night Elves, Mag'har and especially Draenei are not races that would ever accept Fel users in their society in any shape or form due to their history with battling Fel based enemies to avoid total annihilation.
Any fel user is automatically rejected from their society for good reason.

[Gurahk]

Mag'har are called Mag'har for not accepting the fel. Letting them turn into warlocks would just turn them into green orcs.

[fatgunn]

I could see Blizz deciding to give almost every race some classes. No Lightforged warlocks, Void Elf Paladins, etc... where it doesn't make sense from a biological standpoint. But any combination that is just culturally abnormal can be explained away as a fringe group.

I suspect Demon Hunter will never be all races just because of the effort involved in making the demon forms, and it being a hero class less people will be upset by that.

We'll probably get druids, paladins, and shamans as patch additions for the next few years starting with the ones that are easiest. Kul Tirans and Worgen will both most likely have adjusted version of the human paladin horses for instance.

[Gurahk]

I could see Blizz deciding to give almost every race some classes. No Lightforged warlocks, Void Elf Paladins, etc... where it doesn't make sense from a biological standpoint. But any combination that is just culturally abnormal can be explained away as a fringe group.

I suspect Demon Hunter will never be all races just because of the effort involved in making the demon forms, and it being a hero class less people will be upset by that.

We'll probably get druids, paladins, and shamans as patch additions for the next few years starting with the ones that are easiest. Kul Tirans and Worgen will both most likely have adjusted version of the human paladin horses for instance.

I can see Orc and Draenei DHs, both of them have "hulk demonic" forms that they can take inspiration from.

[fatgunn]

I can see Orc and Draenei DHs, both of them have "hulk demonic" forms that they can take inspiration from.

If they do that I want orc DHs to be low poly TBC fel orcs.

[ONCHEhap]

The idea would be refugees that survived our attack on the legion decide to join the Dranaei and Velen being the big ole softie he is lets them in but under watch. BAM Dranaei Warlocks and even add in a nifty little red skin for them

To be fair, the Burning Legion was pretty much the one exception to the "Velen being a softy" rule. Encounters with the Legion involving Velen generally ended up with Velen turning a hundred mfs into ash without much of a question

[FossilFree]

Good luck trying to justify Lightforged Draenei using fel magic. No explanation will ever suffice. And don't say "shadow priest works". It's the exact same logic as forsaken priests and void elves canonically only being shadow priests but being able to play light wielding specs for gameplay reasons.

That sort of logic doesn't and will never apply to warlocks or DH.

As for Mag'har orcs, not using fel magic which would give them green skin is literally the one thing that separates them from regular orcs.

The explanation is simple. A lightforged chose to go down that path. It was a choice they made, for their own reasons, since they aren't robots programmed from birth. Perhaps they wanted power, or they started to question their beliefs and wanted answers to forbidden secrets and mysteries. Maybe they always just went along with the light and pretended, as psychopaths do, but secretly harbored dark intents the whole time. Or perhaps they thought they could study it, since you must understand your enemy to defeat them? Being ignorant of the fel would only lead to them being unable to make wise choices in battle, while understanding it would allow them to control it, like the light likes to do.

Mag'har are even easier. All of the original orcs started out as Mag'har, they were brown-skinned and not fel-infused in any way. The green skin came from drinking the blood of Mannoroth, and not from simply using the fel. Humans don't turn all green like the Hulk when they become warlocks. Mag'har warlocks would simply be like these early orc warlocks before the drinking of the blood, with brown skin, who took up using the fel to become the first orc warlocks. And if one of those ancient Mag'har can decide to use the fel for their own reasons, as a choice they made, so can the modern ones.

[Triceron]

For a Pandaran or maybe a Zandalari yes

but Night Elves, Maghar, and ESPECIALLY the Dranaei aren't gonna be to keen on that

Not really, considering all warlocks are just rogue magi who decide to tap into fel. We're talking about individuals who do not reflect the culture of their races, rather they are the outsiders who choose to give up all societal constraints to become a warlock.

Draenei, Zandalari, Highmountain, Lightforged - all you need to do is say the ones who became warlocks are the ones that abandoned their own culture. Just like the Orc Warlocks under Thrall's Horde were absolutely forsaking Thrall's beliefs to continue practicing fel in secret.

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Good luck trying to justify Lightforged Draenei using fel magic.

It's no different than justifying any Warlock, period. We're merely talking about individuals who have chosen to practice fel magic, regardless of their cultural background. They're all considered secret cultists hidden in their respective societies.

No race or culture actually accepts using fel magic. Some cultures are merely more accepting, but otherwise don't welcome it in their society. All Warlocks exist outside of any cultural justification.

It's a similar boat to DKs, where they're still considered abominations by society at large, but acceptable as necessary allies.

[Neuroticaine]

For a Pandaran or maybe a Zandalari yes

but Night Elves, Maghar, and ESPECIALLY the Dranaei aren't gonna be to keen on that

As a whole, true, but humans the original playable orcs as a whole society strongly dislike fel magic as well but could always be Warlocks because of being outliers of society.

[FelPlague]

All the latter three races you mentioned have historically had warlocks.

Maghar literally can't be warlocks.
Because becoming a warlock makes them no longer maghar, they become just normal orcs, the whole point of maghar is they are not corrupted by the fel. Maghar literally means "Uncorrupted"
Same with draenei, using the fel makes them eredar, no longer draenei.
For draenei they will likely add some story element with eredar, maybe pray a skin colour or two like reds and darker blues almost blacks, and maybe purples.
Maghar Idk what they will do with that, cause like literally the only difference between them and the normal orcs is that they are corrupted, so becoming a warlock makes them a new race we already have access to.

[Cynical Asshole]

Maghar literally can't be warlocks.
Because becoming a warlock makes them no longer maghar, they become just normal orcs, the whole point of maghar is they are not corrupted by the fel. Maghar literally means "Uncorrupted"

What? The Orcs are corrupted by fel because they drank the Mannoroth juice, not because they were warlocks. Being a warlock doesn't corrupt the user.

[ClownPrincess]

lmao if you think the big holdup is ~the lore~

they just need to make a couple NPCs explain in a couple sentences "oh they got corrupted by power, usual stuff"

[Clone]

Not the playable ones didn't.

People seem to forget that we don't just play any Night Elf/ Tauren/ whatever.
We play a specific subsection of races with their own cultures.

The playable Night Elves, Mag'har and especially Draenei are not races that would ever accept Fel users in their society in any shape or form due to their history with battling Fel based enemies to avoid total annihilation.
Any fel user is automatically rejected from their society for good reason.

Maghar literally can't be warlocks.
Because becoming a warlock makes them no longer maghar, they become just normal orcs, the whole point of maghar is they are not corrupted by the fel. Maghar literally means "Uncorrupted"
Same with draenei, using the fel makes them eredar, no longer draenei.
For draenei they will likely add some story element with eredar, maybe pray a skin colour or two like reds and darker blues almost blacks, and maybe purples.
Maghar Idk what they will do with that, cause like literally the only difference between them and the normal orcs is that they are corrupted, so becoming a warlock makes them a new race we already have access to.

It doesn't matter what race, they were all uncorrupted until they weren't.

[ONCHEhap]

What? The Orcs are corrupted by fel because they drank the Mannoroth juice, not because they were warlocks. Being a warlock doesn't corrupt the user.

It does though. Do you think your demonic strength and stamina come at no cost? What about life tap (though it doesn't exist anymore afaik, it's historically one of the signature abilities of warlocks) literally burning away your life force for power?
The fact that warlocks are unnaturally tanky for a cloth class is directly related to their demonic corruption

[FelPlague]

What? The Orcs are corrupted by fel because they drank the Mannoroth juice, not because they were warlocks. Being a warlock doesn't corrupt the user.

Did thrall drink the mannoroth juice?
No, nor did MANY of the orcs. Just being near the rampent use of fel changed their skin colour.
That is literally the orc lore.

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It doesn't matter what race, they were all uncorrupted until they weren't.

Becoming corrupted makes them no longer maghar, they just become normal orcs, which we already have. that would be like asking for a night elf, but with tusks, and a hunch, and blue skin, and to be part of the horde, and less fingers and toes, and taller.
you no longer have a night elf, you have a troll.

you want a corrupted maghar orc.
so you want an orc?

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lmao if you think the big holdup is ~the lore~

they just need to make a couple NPCs explain in a couple sentences "oh they got corrupted by power, usual stuff"

Yeah.. they got corrupted by power, and they became orcs... that is the whole thing with maghar orcs, maghar orcs are uncorrupted orcs, so if you make a corrupted maghar orc... youve just got... an orc.

[Clone]

Becoming corrupted makes them no longer maghar, they just become normal orcs, which we already have. that would be like asking for a night elf, but with tusks, and a hunch, and blue skin, and to be part of the horde, and less fingers and toes, and taller.
you no longer have a night elf, you have a troll.

you want a corrupted maghar orc.
so you want an orc?

Using fel magic doesn't instantly turn brown orcs green. There are other fel using races that undergo minimal or no appearance change.

[Triceron]

Maghar literally can't be warlocks.
Because becoming a warlock makes them no longer maghar, they become just normal orcs, the whole point of maghar is they are not corrupted by the fel. Maghar literally means "Uncorrupted"
Same with draenei, using the fel makes them eredar, no longer draenei.
For draenei they will likely add some story element with eredar, maybe pray a skin colour or two like reds and darker blues almost blacks, and maybe purples.
Maghar Idk what they will do with that, cause like literally the only difference between them and the normal orcs is that they are corrupted, so becoming a warlock makes them a new race we already have access to.

Like someone else pointed out, they turned green because of two given lore reasons - They drank Mannoroth's Blood, or else they crossed the Dark Portal, which caused their skin to turn green. Thrall's skin being green is said to be a residual effect of having crossed the portal, while he didn't personally drink the blood of Mannoroth and so did not have the corrupted effects like the other Orcs had.

Of course, lore in general isn't very consistent.

[Ryzeth]

Using fel magic doesn't instantly turn brown orcs green. There are other fel using races that undergo minimal or no appearance change.

People forgetting about the entire subset of shadowmoon orcs, that have warlocks, without green skin.

Can't let facts get in the way of peoples' know-it-all attitude, though.

[Cynical Asshole]

Did thrall drink the mannoroth juice?
No, nor did MANY of the orcs. Just being near the rampent use of fel changed their skin colour.
That is literally the orc lore.

The fel corruption is passed on to the children because they share the corrupted blood of their parents, duh!

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Like someone else pointed out, they turned green because of two given lore reasons - They drank Mannoroth's Blood, or else they crossed the Dark Portal, which caused their skin to turn green. Thrall's skin being green is said to be a residual effect of having crossed the portal, while he didn't personally drink the blood of Mannoroth and so did not have the corrupted effects like the other Orcs had.

Of course, lore in general isn't very consistent.

There are green Orc that were born on Azeroth long after their parents passed through the Dark Portal, so no.

The source of the green skin is the because the child's parents' blood is corrupted by fel and it passes on to the child.

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It does though. Do you think your demonic strength and stamina come at no cost? What about life tap (though it doesn't exist anymore afaik, it's historically one of the signature abilities of warlocks) literally burning away your life force for power?
The fact that warlocks are unnaturally tanky for a cloth class is directly related to their demonic corruption

Humans and elves don't turn green despite being warlocks.