The Brexit aftermath thread

[Mayhem]

Always happy to help Huey in disbarring global problems in their connection to Brexit.

From the end of summer 2022, the shortage of fruit made itself felt on the European banana market. Due to poor climate conditions (cold, rains, lack of sunshine), as well as a lack of fertilisation directly linked to increasing input costs, the dollar origins supply was well below average.

https://www.fruitrop.com/en/Articles...low%20average.

A European wide problem see, nothing to do with Brexit. Unless of course you blame poor climate conditions on Brexit, which wouldn't surprise me.

so because bananas were more expensive for countries using the euro second half last year the uk gets none this year?

that makes sense yeah totally

[Crispin]

Bananas to blame Brexit for no bananas.

The majority of our bananas sold in the UK and Ireland come from Costa Rica, Ecuador and Colombia.

https://www.tescoplc.com/sustainabil...nd%20Colombia.

But then some people blame Brexit if it rains in the UK...

But the good Brexit news keeps on coming as I read talks are progressing well for the UK to join the CPTPP today, who have a combined population of 500 million far in excess of the EU.

UK closing in on major Pacific trade deal after Sunak’s Brexit breakthrough

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-e...-deal-in-days/

Side effect of our membership of the CPTPP that noone talks about would be that it makes it impossible to rejoin the EU. Beautiful.

You do realise that the EU have trade agreements, the EU-Central america agreement and the EU-Colombia/Peru/Ecuador agreement with the countries you're listing there right?

Also the EU have trade agreements with the the majority of the CPTPP countries.

You have no idea on the arguments you're putting forward do you?

It's fine and dandy that you're happy for brexit, because you're afraid of foreigners, we get it. However there's no need to try to spin the shitshow it actually is.

[zealo]

The bananas just aren't bendy enough for the sunlit uplands, obviously.

[dribbles]

so because bananas were more expensive for countries using the euro second half last year the uk gets none this year?

that makes sense yeah totally

There is disruption to the supply of all sorts of foodstuffs for various reasons, including Bananas, across the world right now none of which is down to Brexit. And for those telling porkies as usual spreading misinformation, saying everything is rosy and plentiful in the EU and it is only happening in the UK, look what's being reported in the EU...

Shortages reported in broccoli, cauliflower, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, aubergines and courgettes

https://www.irishtimes.com/food/2023...-energy-costs/

There's the facts.

[Crispin]

There is disruption to the supply of all sorts of foodstuffs for various reasons, including Bananas, across the world right now none of which is down to Brexit. And for those telling porkies as usual spreading misinformation, saying everything is rosy and plentiful in the EU and it is only happening in the UK, look what's being reported in the EU...

Shortages reported in broccoli, cauliflower, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, aubergines and courgettes

https://www.irishtimes.com/food/2023...-energy-costs/

There's the facts.

Brexit is not the root cause, but it’s causing the issue to be worse for the UK. It’s not a hard concept kiddo, brexit will be a factor in making alot of issues just worse for the UK.

[Mayhem]

There is disruption to the supply of all sorts of foodstuffs for various reasons, including Bananas, across the world right now none of which is down to Brexit. And for those telling porkies as usual spreading misinformation, saying everything is rosy and plentiful in the EU and it is only happening in the UK, look what's being reported in the EU...

Shortages reported in broccoli, cauliflower, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, aubergines and courgettes

https://www.irishtimes.com/food/2023...-energy-costs/

There's the facts.

as per usual whatever the UK does also impacts their island neighbor, especially if they cut themselves off from a trade route that up until 2021 carried an estimated 180000 trailers annually on this route to Ireland

so they can thank you folks for cutting them off from a trade route

[Milchshake]

Seaford Mods might be the most viable BRitish Export in 2023.
New album UK GRIM is out now! http://sleafordmods.ffm.to/ukgrim



It's like 30% brit pop and 70% crass with simonon bass.

[LeGin v3]

Sleaford Mods

Entertaining video, absolutely crap music.

Gief a decent protest song.

[LeGin v3]

Actual Rishi Sunak tweet...

There are so many things wrong with this, I don’t know where to start.

Bizarrely, it’s actually possible to interpret it in a positive way e.g., if you come here we won’t make slaves of you like we have done other migrant workers.

Of course, that’s not what’s meant, though.

I‘d like to say I’m shocked this has been published by a UK government, but I’m not.

But hey, fence-sitters, the UK’s still a nice place to live, isn’t it! Your silence speaks volumes.

[dribbles]

Actual Rishi Sunak tweet...

A policy for the UK that has been framed by and is the fault of the EU losing control of it borders.

As the EU tries to implement "Fortress Europe" building walls 1000km's long as a solution to its mistakes the UK cannot sit by and do nothing about illegal immigration. A Brexit benefit in taking back control of UK borders is that we can forge with the Rwanda plan for example something that works for us and prevents the people traffickers from making a profit out of human misery and saves lives by dissuading perilous channel crossings.

Such a good and compassionate idea, thanks to Brexit, that in fact many EU nations are now talking to Rwanda and other African nations about copying the British idea.

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/new...sylum-seekers/

Will play well with UK voters if it works, and might even get the Tories re-elected, despite what Gary Lineker thinks.

[Iliena]

The Tories are in desperation mode, they are trying to find a win from somewhere and this nonsense is about the best they can do! While the rest of the country fails down round their ears!

I'm finding the reaction and pearl clutching about the Lineker's tweet hilarious! Good for him for standing up and saying what a lot of decent people are thinking about this.

[Twdft]

taking back control of UK borders

Which border is that, the one between Northern Ireland and Ireland or the one between Northern Ireland and Great Britain?

[Edge-]

Man...gotta say it's a bit weirder when the xenophobic dude is the brown guy with the posh accent instead of the white guy with the posh accent, for a change.

I get it's the whole party and all, and it's really not surprising since we knew that Tories would continue dipping into this well whenever they needed to get a bit of an ego boost from the racists and all...but it's still weird.

I mean, major domestic problems and people struggling to afford heating and food? Can't get veggies from the store?

Well shit, ain't nothing to be done about that. Let's remind everyone that we hate them illegals again, that should solve the problem.

[Santti]

Actual Rishi Sunak tweet...

Denied access to the UK's modern slavery system?

Uhhhh... Do you want to go back and maybe write a second draft?

[Syri79]

Denied access to the UK's modern slavery system?

Uhhhh... Do you want to go back and maybe write a second draft?

I guess those slavers will just have to go and legally bring their slaves into the country from now on...
In other news, clueless Tories remain clueless.

[Huehuecoyotl]

The world’s largest seller of electric and hybrid cars will not consider building its first European car factory in the UK because of the impact of Brexit.

Clickety click.

Another Brexit....err....whatever the opposite of benefit is.

[Fuiking]

The world’s largest seller of electric and hybrid cars will not consider building its first European car factory in the UK because of the impact of Brexit.

Clickety click.

Another Brexit....err....whatever the opposite of benefit is.

its a benefit! less work, less migrants! ./s

[Edge-]

The world’s largest seller of electric and hybrid cars will not consider building its first European car factory in the UK because of the impact of Brexit.

Clickety click.

Another Brexit....err....whatever the opposite of benefit is.

“As an investor we want a country to be stable,” said Michael Shu, BYD’s European president, speaking to the Financial Times. “To open a factory is a decision for decades. Without Brexit, maybe. But after Brexit, we don’t understand what happened.”

BYD, which stands for Build Your Dreams, said the UK had not even made a top 10 list of possible locations to build its first European car plant. The company already makes buses in Europe.

“The UK doesn’t have a very good solution,” said Shu. “Even on the long list we didn’t have the UK.”

Good on the Tories, making the United Kingdom the most attractive place for investment in new, good paying manufacturing jobs by assuaging investor concerns and having a stable nation that they feel confident making a multi-billion dollar bet on.



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[dribbles]

We don't make many cars in the UK any more, moved on to space things, satellites and more complicated stuff. (just ask Australia about our submarines vs EU ones. ) Let others do the simple menial things like building cars.

So anyway how does this change things? Hardly a win for the EU is it that a Chinese competitor opens up on the doorstep of Volkswagen et al undercutting prices. Still in the same way the EU once relied on Russian gas, they will come to rely on China for cheap transportation. Can't see anything going wrong there can you?

Finally as for foreign inward investment to the UK since and thanks to the beautiful Brexit let's see the facts once again...

[jonnysensible]

quite funny watching the labour party poll lead drop to 10 points and knowing that they will lose the next election.