[Destruction] A Guide (4.3)

[Vayshan]

And to think I passed up on Rath for the oppertunity to get LR >

[gakpad]

And to think I passed up on Rath for the oppertunity to get LR >

Nah, I'm guessing the dps loss you'd get from going goblin over orc wouldn't be enough to compensate for the fact that without being goblin you more than likely won't be able to keep your hit cap and haste thresholds with it.

[Rustjive]

Interestingly enough, just barely. The absolute maximum haste will go, if you change only reforges, while capping on hit is 2695, if you swap the Artfuls for Recklesses. But you can still go with the Artfuls and hit 2685, just making the threshold.

[gakpad]

Interestingly enough, just barely. The absolute maximum haste will go, if you change only reforges, while capping on hit is 2695, if you swap the Artfuls for Recklesses. But you can still go with the Artfuls and hit 2685, just making the threshold.

Can you keep your hit cap while doing all that though?

[Rustjive]

Can you keep your hit cap while doing all that though?

Yes, 2685 haste, 1752 hit. I'm simming again, with more standard parameters (the first time was 10k iters, 300s, 10% vary, this time 50k iterations, 450s, 20% vary) and -
H LR (with Domo neck): rvstlightningrod : 49047 dps

#!./simc

warlock=rvstlightningrod
origin="unknown"
level=85
race=orc
position=back
role=spell
use_pre_potion=1
professions=Tailoring=525/Enchanting=525
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/talent#warlock-00300000000000000013102000000000000003320202312201312211
glyphs=life_tap/immolate/imp/conflagrate
actions=flask,type=draconic_mind
actions+=/food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast
actions+=/fel_armor
actions+=/summon_imp
actions+=/dark_intent
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/blood_fury
actions+=/volcanic_potion,if=buff.bloodlust.react|!in_combat|target.health_pct<=20
actions+=/demon_soul
actions+=/soulburn
actions+=/soul_fire,if=buff.soulburn.up&!in_combat
actions+=/immolate,if=(remains<cast_time+gcd|!ticking)&target.time_to_die>=4&miss_react
actions+=/conflagrate
actions+=/immolate,if=buff.bloodlust.react&buff.bloodlust.remains>32&cooldown.conflagrate.remains<=3 &remains<12
actions+=/bane_of_doom,if=!ticking&target.time_to_die>=15&miss_react
actions+=/corruption,if=(!ticking|dot.corruption.remains<tick_time)&miss_react
actions+=/shadowflame
actions+=/chaos_bolt,if=cast_time>0.9
actions+=/summon_doomguard,if=time>10
actions+=/soul_fire,if=buff.soulburn.up
actions+=/soul_fire,if=((buff.empowered_imp.react&buff.empowered_imp.remains<(buff.improved_soul_fir e.remains+action.soul_fire.travel_time))|buff.improved_soul_fire.remains<(cast_time+travel _time+action.incinerate.cast_time+gcd))&!in_flight
actions+=/shadowburn
actions+=/incinerate
actions+=/life_tap,moving=1,if=mana_pct<80&mana_pct<target.health_pct
actions+=/fel_flame,moving=1
actions+=/life_tap,if=mana_pct_nonproc<100
head=hood_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1336arm or_280crit_370haste_489int_824sta,reforge=crit_hit,gems=burning_shadowspirit_50int_30int,e nchant=60int_35crit
neck=flowform_choker,heroic=1,ilevel=391,quality=epic,stats=163haste_256int_133mastery_384 sta,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_10int
shoulders=mantle_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats= 1233armor_211crit_368int_268mastery_611sta,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant =50int_25haste
chest=robes_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1644a rmor_362haste_307hit_489int_824sta,reforge=hit_mastery,gems=50int_50int_25int_25mastery_30 int,enchant=20all
waist=cord_of_the_slain_champion,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=925armo r_247crit_256haste_368int_611sta,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int
legs=leggings_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=143 9armor_341haste_489int_331mastery_824sta,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_50int_25int_25master y_30int,enchant=95int_80sta
feet=janglespur_jackboots,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1130armor_248c rit_256haste_368int_611sta,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=35mastery
wrists=bracers_of_the_banished,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=719armor_ 200haste_286int_184mastery_459sta,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_10int,enchant=50int
hands=gloves_of_liquid_smoke,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=416,quality=epic,stats=1059armor_2 38crit_291haste_391int_647sta,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=65mastery
finger1=infinite_loop,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=212crit_164hit_286int_459sta, reforge=crit_haste,gems=50int_10int,enchant=40int
finger2=ring_of_the_riven,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=197haste_286int_189master y_459sta,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_10int,enchant=40int
trinket1=cunning_of_the_cruel,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=onspelld amage_4774.8+42.32shadow_45%_9cd
trinket2=will_of_unbinding,heroic=1,ilevel=416,quality=epic,equip=onharmfulspellcast_99int _100%_10dur_10stack
back=nanoprecise_cape,ilevel=397,quality=epic,stats=769armor_166hit_251int_173mastery_406s ta,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=50int_10int,enchant=lightweave
main_hand=lightning_rod,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=362haste_339hit_529int_3145 sp_824sta,gems=50int_10int,enchant=power_torrent,weapon=staff_3speed_892min_1339max
ranged=finger_of_zonozz,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=106haste_172int_120mastery_ 259sta,reforge=haste_hit
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=20
# gear_agility=20
# gear_stamina=8302
# gear_intellect=7234
# gear_spirit=21
# gear_spell_power=3145
# gear_hit_rating=1743
# gear_crit_rating=899
# gear_haste_rating=2681
# gear_mastery_rating=1601
# gear_armor=10254
# meta_gem=burning_shadowspirit
# tier13_2pc_caster=1
# tier13_4pc_caster=1
# back=nanoprecise_cape,enchant=lightweave
# main_hand=lightning_rod,heroic=1,weapon=staff_3speed_892min_1339max,enchant=power_torrent
use_pre_soulburn=1

H Rathrak: rvstrathrak : 49549 dps

#!./simc

warlock=rvstrathrak
origin="unknown"
level=85
race=orc
position=back
role=spell
use_pre_potion=1
professions=Tailoring=525/Enchanting=525
talents=http://www.wowhead.com/talent#warlock-00300000000000000013102000000000000003320202312201312211
glyphs=life_tap/immolate/imp/conflagrate
actions=flask,type=draconic_mind
actions+=/food,type=seafood_magnifique_feast
actions+=/fel_armor
actions+=/summon_imp
actions+=/dark_intent
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/blood_fury
actions+=/volcanic_potion,if=buff.bloodlust.react|!in_combat|target.health_pct<=20
actions+=/demon_soul
actions+=/soulburn
actions+=/soul_fire,if=buff.soulburn.up&!in_combat
actions+=/immolate,if=(remains<cast_time+gcd|!ticking)&target.time_to_die>=4&miss_react
actions+=/conflagrate
actions+=/immolate,if=buff.bloodlust.react&buff.bloodlust.remains>32&cooldown.conflagrate.remains<=3 &remains<12
actions+=/bane_of_doom,if=!ticking&target.time_to_die>=15&miss_react
actions+=/corruption,if=(!ticking|dot.corruption.remains<tick_time)&miss_react
actions+=/shadowflame
actions+=/chaos_bolt,if=cast_time>0.9
actions+=/summon_doomguard,if=time>10
actions+=/soul_fire,if=buff.soulburn.up
actions+=/soul_fire,if=((buff.empowered_imp.react&buff.empowered_imp.remains<(buff.improved_soul_fir e.remains+action.soul_fire.travel_time))|buff.improved_soul_fire.remains<(cast_time+travel _time+action.incinerate.cast_time+gcd))&!in_flight
actions+=/shadowburn
actions+=/incinerate
actions+=/life_tap,moving=1,if=mana_pct<80&mana_pct<target.health_pct
actions+=/fel_flame,moving=1
actions+=/life_tap,if=mana_pct_nonproc<100
head=hood_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1336arm or_280crit_370haste_489int_824sta,reforge=haste_hit,gems=burning_shadowspirit_50int_30int, enchant=60int_35crit
neck=opal_of_the_secret_order,ilevel=397,quality=epic,stats=203haste_141hit_271int_406sta
shoulders=mantle_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats= 1233armor_211crit_368int_268mastery_611sta,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,ench ant=50int_25haste
chest=robes_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1644a rmor_362haste_307hit_489int_824sta,gems=50int_50int_25int_25mastery_30int,enchant=20all
waist=cord_of_the_slain_champion,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=925armo r_247crit_256haste_368int_611sta,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_50int_20int
legs=leggings_of_the_faceless_shroud,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=143 9armor_341haste_489int_331mastery_824sta,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_50int_25int_25mast ery_30int,enchant=95int_80sta
feet=janglespur_jackboots,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=1130armor_248c rit_256haste_368int_611sta,reforge=crit_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=35mastery
wrists=bracers_of_the_banished,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=719armor_ 200haste_286int_184mastery_459sta,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_10int,enchant=50int
hands=gloves_of_liquid_smoke,heroic=1,type=cloth,ilevel=416,quality=epic,stats=1059armor_2 38crit_291haste_391int_647sta,reforge=haste_hit,gems=50int_50int_20int,enchant=65mastery
finger1=infinite_loop,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=212crit_164hit_286int_459sta, reforge=crit_haste,gems=50int_10int,enchant=40int
finger2=ring_of_the_riven,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=197haste_286int_189master y_459sta,reforge=mastery_hit,gems=50int_10int,enchant=40int
trinket1=cunning_of_the_cruel,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=517int,equip=onspelld amage_4774.8+42.32shadow_45%_9cd
trinket2=will_of_unbinding,heroic=1,ilevel=416,quality=epic,equip=onharmfulspellcast_99int _100%_10dur_10stack
back=nanoprecise_cape,ilevel=397,quality=epic,stats=769armor_166hit_251int_173mastery_406s ta,reforge=mastery_haste,gems=50int_10int,enchant=lightweave
main_hand=rathrak_the_poisonous_mind,heroic=1,ilevel=416,quality=epic,stats=249int_3324sp_ 373sta,enchant=power_torrent,weapon=dagger_1.5speed_412min_767max
off_hand=ledger_of_revolting_rituals,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=189haste_286in t_197spi_459sta,reforge=spi_hit,gems=50int_10int,enchant=40int
ranged=finger_of_zonozz,heroic=1,ilevel=410,quality=epic,stats=106haste_172int_120mastery_ 259sta,reforge=mastery_hit
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=20
# gear_agility=20
# gear_stamina=8332
# gear_intellect=7235
# gear_spirit=140
# gear_spell_power=3324
# gear_hit_rating=1752
# gear_crit_rating=1190
# gear_haste_rating=2685
# gear_mastery_rating=911
# gear_armor=10254
# meta_gem=burning_shadowspirit
# tier13_2pc_caster=1
# tier13_4pc_caster=1
# back=nanoprecise_cape,enchant=lightweave
# main_hand=rathrak_the_poisonous_mind,heroic=1,weapon=dagger_1.5speed_412min_767max,enchant =power_torrent
use_pre_soulburn=1

edit: ALL OF THIS TO BE 1700 DPS WORSE THAN THE LEGENDARY

[gakpad]

interesting then, seems something has changed since I last compared the two. and yes, legendary > all in the end anyway :P

[Deleted]

So much reading

[Aylene]

I thoroughly enjoyed this, thank you<3

[ymn]

Holly molly the necro

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Holly molly the necro

it's a bot they do that quite often