Blizzard needs to get Rogues under control

[zecount]

i can see him getting hit 30k+ if he opened with recklessness and rogue got him with recklessness on..wich is wot most 1500 wars do charge recklessness lol

[Tyler-Stormrage]

A good Warrior should kill a good Frost Mage. LOL

No. Just, no. 1v1, warriors cannot, and i repeat cannot win against and equally skilled mage. The only way that its even possible is if the mage makes some critical error. Look up cartoonz vs 100 different warriors, some over 2.7k rated.

[Mookes]

While you are mostly right, there is at least one other class that has a 70 percent slow, shaman, using unleash frost. Granted, it cant be kept up, only like 5? seconds out of every 15.

Frost mages as well.

[Voidgazer]

-47% physical damage via armor..
Their stuns and effects seem not to have Diminishing returns, judging by the fact after I am stun-locked for 6 seconds I can be blinded for 7 seconds..

Oh boy here we go. You could've at least read about armor penetration and different CC mechanics, like controllable stuns and disorientation, before making this thread.

Wait for mists. Strange things always happen balance wise in end tiers.

Well, that's just ridiculous. Final tier should the most stable time in the game, because nothing new is being added. There's absolutely no excuse for developers not planning ahead and balancing things at the endgame.

On a side note, I hate rogues too (everyone does), but I'm a cloth-user, so your irritation by rogues is nothing compared to mine, OP.

[NotValidAnymore]

While you are mostly right, there is at least one other class that has a 70 percent slow, shaman, using unleash frost. Granted, it cant be kept up, only like 5? seconds out of every 15.

Yeah, but I don't think there are many Shamans that use Frostbrand these days though. But I could be wrong.

I hope MoP will have a better shot at balancing classes.

Frost mages as well.

Yeah, but that doesn't help much. Frost Mages are just as OP as Rogues, if not even more OP.

[Lucreta]

While you are mostly right, there is at least one other class that has a 70 percent slow, shaman, using unleash frost. Granted, it cant be kept up, only like 5? seconds out of every 15.

This is true only if they are Enh really. Elemental isn't going to be using Frostbrand weapon over Flametongue weapon. Also it can easily be cleansed by every healer in the game because it's magic, where as poisons can only be cleansed by 2 I think?

At any rate my only annoyance with rogues is how easy it is for them to just vanish/recuperate for a few seconds and open back up on you. I think the
combination of Cheat Death + Recuperate + Vanish + Cloak makes them very annoying to fight as any class that has no physical bleeds =/ It basically means even if you manage to kite them around and get some damage off on them, they could still easily win with little to no health just by outlasting you and letting Recuperate tick. Not many classes have any kind of advantage like that, let alone a pure dps.

[firechancer]

anybody remember warriors and DKs in wotlk tearing up battlegrounds and arenas with shadowmourne? what goes around comes around..

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Thread's gotten out of hand, threads about "x" being overpowered or "y" being underpowered never seem to end well.

closan