U.S. Presidential race - Republican Discussion

[smelltheglove]

Yeah, the US isn't a business. Honestly I'd much rather see an economist in the White House than a businessman.

i honestly dont mind a business background, it can be an asset imo. just not when the person cant understand that they arent the same thing

[Deleted]

Well, Romney was also a Governor which is the closest office you can hold to being the president of the united states.

[Daelak]

Well, Romney was also a Governor which is the closest office you can hold to being the president of the united states.

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/co...tractId=743474

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

He has 1 month to make over 80 more electoral votes:

http://electoral-vote.com/

[Sunseeker]

Well, Romney was also a Governor which is the closest office you can hold to being the president of the united states.

A rather liberal one at that too, legalizing gay marriage and establishing a policy of state healthcare. He's got essentially the same problem as John McCain who was known for thinking for himself and doing what was best for his constituents over what the party voting bloc demanded....until he sold his soul to the party line for political advancement.

[ptwonline]

Well, Romney was also a Governor which is the closest office you can hold to being the president of the united states.

Unless you've, say, already been President for the past 4 years. Or a Vice-President.

[stumpy]

A rather liberal one at that too, legalizing gay marriage and establishing a policy of state healthcare.

Shh, don't let the teabaggers know.

[Felya]

A rather liberal one at that too, legalizing gay marriage and establishing a policy of state healthcare. He's got essentially the same problem as John McCain who was known for thinking for himself and doing what was best for his constituents over what the party voting bloc demanded....until he sold his soul to the party line for political advancement.

Maybe that's the big undercutting message for Wednesday that will swing the election. Romney will go on the offensive as agreeing with Obama, but with the understanding of state rights. Agree with Obama, state your governership as example, than emphasizing that the right thing to do with these issue is a mater of state rights.

[Grizzly Willy]

I'm not sure if agreeing with Obama is going to help him much. The GOP base is already rabidly against Obama, and not going on the offensive at every possible turn is going to make him appear weak.

[Lenonis]

Romney's issue is going to be to try to get the independent/moderate vote while not disenfranchising his base and causing them to stay home.

Honestly I'm not sure how that's going to be even remotely possible. Any social issue he touches will either piss off the moderates or piss off his conservative base. Economic talk is going to almost have to touch social programs, and he has shown before his touch there does not resonate well. Plus his foreign policy stances have come under attack as well.

Not sure how he's going to pull this off, unless he goes for "I'm not Obama" which isn't going to get him any more votes at this point.

[smelltheglove]

im guessing romney will stay to points and nothing else. with his slip ups lately, if he goes off script it would be disastrous for him. but then again, it might also be the only way to close the gap

[Lenonis]

im guessing romney will stay to points and nothing else. with his slip ups lately, if he goes off script it would be disastrous for him. but then again, it might also be the only way to close the gap

Yeah, I suspect we'll either see "I'm reading from the GOP script" Romney or "I'm going for the hail mary" Romney. Not sure we'll see anything else.

[ptwonline]

Shh, don't let the teabaggers know.

They know. That's why they voted for anyone except Romney in the primaries.

Now that Romney is "their" candidate, many of them have turned on the cognitive dissonance and know it while being able to ignore it.

[Lenonis]

They know. That's why they voted for anyone except Romney in the primaries.

Now that Romney is "their" candidate, many of them have turned on the cognitive dissonance and know it while being able to ignore it.

Not sure it's cognitive dissonance. I'm not a big fan of Obama in several ways, but I'm still voting for him because it's far better than the alternative. I'm sure many tea partiers are going to do the same. I think cognitive dissonance in this regard would be if they were voting for him because they thought he was their candidate, even though he has presented evidence to the contrary. I don't think there is a lot of that going on.

[Sunseeker]

Not sure it's cognitive dissonance. I'm not a big fan of Obama in several ways, but I'm still voting for him because it's far better than the alternative. I'm sure many tea partiers are going to do the same. I think cognitive dissonance in this regard would be if they were voting for him because they thought he was their candidate, even though he has presented evidence to the contrary. I don't think there is a lot of that going on.

I have a very libertairian-leaning tea-party supporting uncle here, and I really can't seem to grasp why he supports Romney. My uncle is severely disabled, lives in a government-funded apartment complex(which is rather nice), supports small business, reduction in government spending and so on and so forth. He has absolutely nothing in common with Romney(or Obama) politically aside from a very slight conservative leaning.

[Deleted]

I have a very libertairian-leaning tea-party supporting uncle here, and I really can't seem to grasp why he supports Romney. My uncle is severely disabled, lives in a government-funded apartment complex(which is rather nice), supports small business, reduction in government spending and so on and so forth. He has absolutely nothing in common with Romney(or Obama) politically aside from a very slight conservative leaning.

For one, no party wants to throw out the disabled on the street. And it's predicted that Romney will atleast to some degree deregulate the economy which is good. Romney is probably the lesser evil for him.

[Lenonis]

My uncle is severely disabled, lives in a government-funded apartment complex

Romney is probably the lesser evil for him.

That's some mighty selective reading there.

[Daelak]

For one, no party wants to throw out the disabled on the street. And it's predicted that Romney will atleast to some degree deregulate the economy which is good. Romney is probably the lesser evil for him.

"Deregulate the economy"? WTF does that even mean Diurdi?

[Kasierith]

"Deregulate the economy"? WTF does that even mean Diurdi?

Its an ambiguous term used to influence people when it really doesn't have that much substance in its actual use. Its along the same lines as someone blaming Obama for the direct actions of the federal banks.

[Daelak]

Its an ambiguous term used to influence people when it really doesn't have that much substance in its actual use. Its along the same lines as someone blaming Obama for the direct actions of the federal banks.

Yea kind of like the vague unsubstantiated claims the Romney/Ryan Campaign has been saying for 6 months.

[Deleted]

That's some mighty selective reading there.

Huh? Read my post again.

"Deregulate the economy"? WTF does that even mean Diurdi?

Make it easier to do commerce, remove red tape, etc. There's a reason why even the socialist Nordic states of Finland, Denmark, Sweden and so on score much higher in Investment freedom, Finance freedom, Business freedom than US. Regulation is much more efficient and transparent in the Nordic countries than in US. It's definitely not all Obama's fault though.