MMOC Guild Wars Guild

[BoomChickn]

God damn. I have to do a research paper in one week instead of two for D3.

Health is your health pool.

Effective health is how much unmitigated damage you can take before you drop dead.

So you have 100k health at 0% reduction. You have 100k effective health.
You now have 33% damage reduction. Your effective health is now 150k (100k divided by .66)
You now have 90% damage reduction. You have 1 million effective health.

You get the point.

Boosting reduction is pretty much boosting your health and healing taken by 1/n, n being your total damage reduction (Out of one)

Oh damn. That was a rhetorical question in the beginning. Whatever.

[Larynx]

The 590 and the new 690 are dual GPU (basically 2 graphics cards one card).

So if you had the equivalent of crossfire for those, it would be four GPUs? :[]

[BoomChickn]

So if you had the equivalent of crossfire for those, it would be four GPUs? :[]

Oh dear god. 8 monitor setup here we go!

[DrakeWurrum]

Last I heard Fencers hasn't played WoW since vanilla or TBC...

I wasn't talking about WoW, I was talking about how he's already said that Vitality is dramatically better than Toughness.

[Mif]

So if you had the equivalent of crossfire for those, it would be four GPUs? :[]

Yep. You can even SLI one with a single GPU card for 3 way.

[Larynx]

Oh damn. That was a rhetorical question in the beginning. Whatever.

I was considering editing that to make it more clear, but the damage is done. xD

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I wasn't talking about WoW, I was talking about how he's already said that Vitality is dramatically better than Toughness.

Based on what?

Yep. You can even SLI one with a single GPU card for 3 way.

Kinky.

[Squirrelbanes]

The 590 and the new 690 are dual GPU (basically 2 graphics cards one card).

Which model did ya get?
Does it beat this?
It finally arrived xD Today I get paid and gonna order the other pieces from newegg today Happy dayz!

[Larynx]

Oh dear god. 8 monitor setup here we go!

Does that even exist?

They need to make a monitor that's a sphere, so you sit inside it. That would be beyond epic.

[DrakeWurrum]

Based on what?

His first-hand experience. He's been saying that Toughness doesn't provide enough damage reduction to provide more eHP than the HP Vitality provides.

[Mif]

Which model did ya get?
Does it beat this?
It finally arrived xD Today I get paid and gonna order the other pieces from newegg today Happy dayz!

I got an EVGA reference card, because I hope to eventually have it water cooled (and full cover waterblocks only fit reference cards)

[Larynx]

His first-hand experience. He's been saying that Toughness doesn't provide enough damage reduction to provide more eHP than the HP Vitality provides.

So there's just not large enough quantities?

Or, and lets just assume these are correct figures, 1 vitality translates into 10 health, but 1 toughness might only translate into 5 effective health?

[BoomChickn]

Well it would make sense if point for point, toughness gave slightly less effective health than vitality, because it also increases the effectiveness of heals. But if they scale flatly, toughness might come in to favor at high levels if vitality stays at 10 health/point.

[Squirrelbanes]

I got an EVGA reference card, because I hope to eventually have it water cooled (and full cover waterblocks only fit reference cards)

Ahhh ok. Mine has a double fan, lots of copper heatpipes and fins n stuff so I hope I'll be ok. Gonna order some form of cooling later on though.
Damn, so excited to finally be getting this PC together gl on ur monster monitor setup too xD
I'll prob post my provisional list later on today...I've not built a PC for like 5 years so I'm not 100% sure on compatibility...

[Mif]

Damn, so excited to finally be getting this PC together gl on ur monster monitor setup too xD

It's funny actually, I've been tinkering with computers since the days of 286's, yet I've never owned an awesome computer. So it's quite exciting

[Squirrelbanes]

It's funny actually, I've been tinkering with computers since the days of 286's, yet I've never owned an awesome computer. So it's quite exciting

Yh I'm the same. I've always had mid-range because I never had the money for a full on awesome pc. I've built my last 2, 1 5 years ago and the one before that 8 years ago...but always gazed longingly at the higher end stuff lol.
Thankfully wrinkles have their benefits though and now I'm just gonna go a bit crazy.
Just hope newegg china can be trusted.

[Mif]

gl on ur monster monitor setup too xD

Oops, missed that in the skim read
Unfortunately my seller fell through, but shit happens.

[Sy]

Comparing Anime to the whole market of Movies is a pretty stupid/uninformed statement...

It's more like saying "I don't like romantic comedies." or "I don't like gory-war movies." And plenty of people don't like different movie genres, my mother included (She can't handle violent, fast paced, thrillers)

that's exactly the point. anime is NOT a genre, it is a kind of media, just like actor-created movies.

different anime are about as different from each other as Twilight and Green Mile.

As for why I don't like it, the main thing is the art style honestly.

"the art style"?





















sooo..... which artstyle again? ^_^

Some of you don't let people have their opinion. Feels like you always have to correct someone and say "No, you're wrong for not liking X or Y."

i'm probably about the last person who doesn't tolerate and respect different opinions. i am just pointing out that what you said makes no sense, just like saying "i don't like tv series" or "i don't like movies who have real actors in them" usually makes little or no sense, and would rather point to a lack of information (or the will to objectively look at said information).
i am NOT saying that your preferences are "wrong". now that would be stupid


(sorry for the big off-topic post, it's just that i've seen this misinformation/preconception a lot and think it's good to clear things up. i'll get back on topic again now^^)

I have a concern for GW2. I hope they're able to balance the stats so that they're all equivalent and equally viable for whatever build you're trying to do. For example, health versus passive damage reduction. In a game like WoW, the answer is obviously damage reduction. Health is just kind of there, but no one cares about it.

But why would someone prefer health in GW2? What benefits are there compared to toughness? 20% more health, or 20% more damage reduction? Well you'd obviously want the damage reduction, especially since everyone has a healing ability. Unless the healing ability scales with your health, stacking health will become less and less useful versus damage reduction.

i agree that it remains to be seen how the balance will work out.

however, toughness is not a fixated percentage of damage reduction, like stats in wow are for example: toughness reduces a high percentage of small damage or damage that is done over a wide time period, but it reduces a low percentage of burst or big junks of damage.
the balance may be a reason for this, but it's mainly to make sure players can increase their survivability by quite a lot with this stat, while still beeing 'forced' to play skillfully and try to avoid damage, especially direct hits of dungeon/world bosses -- meaning you won't be able to actually tank a boss even with a lot of toughness.

His first-hand experience. He's been saying that Toughness doesn't provide enough damage reduction to provide more eHP than the HP Vitality provides.

^ see above

Well it would make sense if point for point, toughness gave slightly less effective health than vitality, because it also increases the effectiveness of heals.

so does vitality at least to some degree as many heal values seem to be based on a percentage of the healthpool (afaik).

[DrakeWurrum]

I'm slowly approaching the point where I may purchase more than just 1 slot for each profession, so that I can have every race/prof combo that appeals to me.

[Sy]

I'm slowly approaching the point where I may purchase more than just 1 slot for each profession, so that I can have every race/prof combo that appeals to me.

o_o

i'm slowly approaching the point where i haz can moar moniez plx?? q_q

[DrakeWurrum]

o_o

i'm slowly approaching the point where i haz can moar moniez plx?? q_q

Gold for gems bro!