Teen Killed In Neighborhood Watch Shooting

[obdigore]

Why can't we get national coverage when a black man shoots another black man over his scuffed Puma's?

Because that isn't going to get the same number of readers as this whole 'racist' thing. Racism gets more page clicks than 'another murder'

[strossus001]

Because that isn't going to get the same number of readers as this whole 'racist' thing. Racism gets more page clicks than 'another murder'

There are more important people that have died that deserve more coverage than some banger, future ditch-digger. Regardless of skin color.

[obdigore]

There are more important people that have died that deserve more coverage than some banger, future ditch-digger. Regardless of skin color.

And? That coverage does not get as many page clicks as the giant racism story where a 900lb white guy guns down a 12 year old black kid who was just on his way home with candy, because the white guy is racist and claimed he feared for his life.

News Corporations are Corporations and are there to make money.

[strossus001]

And? That coverage does not get as many page clicks as the giant racism story where a 900lb white guy guns down a 12 year old black kid who was just on his way home with candy, because the white guy is racist and claimed he feared for his life.

News Corporations are Corporations and are there to make money.

You're missing my satire.

Also, I would like to see a 900 lb person mobile enough to shoot someone outside. It'd be at least amusing lol.

[obdigore]

You're missing my satire.

Also, I would like to see a 900 lb person mobile enough to shoot someone outside. It'd be at least amusing lol.

I guess I am. Maybe they are driving themselves around on a forklift like in Robot Chicken?

[strossus001]

I guess I am. Maybe they are driving themselves around on a forklift like in Robot Chicken?

Most of his weight was the tank treads that made his legs.

But, back on topic, does anyone really truly care? :/

[strossus001]

Again, no law expert here. Please let me know if I'm reading something wrong. But that's what I'm seeing.

Here's what will happen: Zimmerman will not be charged with 2nd degree homicide. He will be charged with a slew of lesser charges. He may not even get jail time.

After this lawsuit, Trayvon's surviving will get rich off of the civil suit they'll easily win. Basically an OJ case. Pretty easy.

[obdigore]

Here's what will happen: Zimmerman will not be charged with 2nd degree homicide. He will be charged with a slew of lesser charges. He may not even get jail time.

After this lawsuit, Trayvon's surviving will get rich off of the civil suit they'll easily win. Basically an OJ case. Pretty easy.

He has already been charged. If the ruling of the court is that it was justifiable homicide (self defense), Zimmerman need only point to the outcome of the trial and the 'Stand your Ground' law in Florida to have any civil dismissed.

The OJ thing was utterly different, and the requirements of guilt are different between Criminal and Tort trials.

[strossus001]

He has already been charged. If the ruling of the court is that it was justifiable homicide (self defense), Zimmerman need only point to the outcome of the trial and the 'Stand your Ground' law in Florida to have any civil dismissed.

The OJ thing was utterly different, and the requirements of guilt are different between Criminal and Tort trials.

I'm sorry. Convicted.

[MasterHamster]

What's the current situation?

Last thing I read was about Zimmerman having bruises and bleeding wounds on the back of his head when he was arrested.
So was it self-defense?

[Zoranon]

He has already been charged. If the ruling of the court is that it was justifiable homicide (self defense), Zimmerman need only point to the outcome of the trial and the 'Stand your Ground' law in Florida to have any civil dismissed.

The OJ thing was utterly different, and the requirements of guilt are different between Criminal and Tort trials.

The thing is, the court will most likely only find him not guilty of 2nd degree homicide and probably dismiss the case. As far as evidence goes, I would say that the criminal case will slowly dies as there is almost no chance for the prosecution to win now. The tort trial is another thing entirely and I will not presume how it will end, it will probably depend on the lawyers representing both sides.

[obdigore]

The thing is, the court will most likely only find him not guilty of 2nd degree homicide and probably dismiss the case. As far as evidence goes, I would say that the criminal case will slowly dies as there is almost no chance for the prosecution to win now. The tort trial is another thing entirely and I will not presume how it will end, it will probably depend on the lawyers representing both sides.

Read the last couple pages, if he is found not guilty by way of justifiable homicide (self defense), the law says he is not liable in civil court either.

A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force

[Zoranon]

OK fair enough, my mistake.

I think this case will fade from public interest fairly soon as the evidence strongly disproves the racist murder allegations and as such will not be interesting for the media to report on any more.

[tombstoner139]

Until the next time someone dies and the killer walks free under the protection of the law.
it wont be long since the number of shooting fatalities tripled after the stand your ground law went into effect.
The law can only protect you from the government: it limits what they can do to you.
The law was written in such a way that it provides people easy access for using lethal force.
All you need to do is make sure you target is dead, claim self defense and you walk.
Had Trayvon killed zimmerman i would expect the same out come.
I think the heart of the issue is the way zimmerman behaved/ persued trayvon forcing an encounter, that ultimately required the use of lethal force.
This to me is negligent behavior for someone carrying a fire arm.

[Maleficus]

The new situation is that apparently Zimmerman had friends in the police department. And even weirder, there's video of him walking around unaccompanied throughout the police station, a few days after the incident with Martin occurred. Odd.

That IS odd. What is odder still is that Zimmerman had more friends that worked in the movie industry - a crew from makeup applied the cuts and bruises while the editing crew fixed up the photos, etc. Finally, Brad Pitt stepped in as medical examiner. The new word is that this is officially a worldwide conspiracy and that Zimmerman is actually a highly trained Bourne-esque assassin.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83O18H20120425

Not sure if anyone has posted that story before, but the ending is incredible!

[KingHorse]

The new situation is that apparently Zimmerman had friends in the police department. And even weirder, there's video of him walking around unaccompanied throughout the police station, a few days after the incident with Martin occurred. Odd.

Did you read the links you gave us? Or watch the video?

The links don't show what you think they show. I read them.

And you can clearly see someone in the video directing Zimmerman to go up the stairs, then following him, finally stopping and talking to (probably) Zimmerman who was (evidently) standing just off camera. Hardly wandering around taking a tour of the place.

These rides, along with new video showing Zimmerman roaming the police department unescorted just three days after the shooting, are reviving old questions of Zimmerman’s relationship with the department that decided against charging him with a crime on the night of the shooting.

Really? How about I quote what he actually said about the ride along, since you think this quote was telling somehow.

"I also have had the opportunity to take ride-alongs with the city of Sanford Police Department and what I saw was disgusting," Zimmerman said at the time. "The officer showed me his favorite hiding spots for taking naps. ... He took two lunch breaks and attended a going-away party for one of his fellow officers."

Clearly he adores the police and I'm sure this statement cemented him and the police into a great romance.

[Deleted]

You could have spent two minutes perusing news sites, instead of wasting your time replying that it's some conspiracy theory.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/24/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
http://www.classichitsandoldies.com/...fore-shooting/
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/23...ps-ripped.html
http://newsone.com/2017126/george-zi...ttended-video/

You do know those links are a joke/parody?

[KingHorse]

The quote was a summation of the articles. Again, stop putting opinions in my mouth.

Except it's not a summation of the articles. It's actually the opposite of what the articles are saying. Which is why I assumed that you had an opinion, since you ignored everything the article was about, and cherry picked something to make it look like something else.

So did I. I never stated anything except what the news reported, from multiple sites. I never gave my opinion at all. But thanks for putting words in my mouth.

I didn't put any words in your mouth. I asked if you read the articles. Because the only thing you quoted from any of the articles directly contradicted what all of the articles said. My apologies for pointing out that you posted four links that in summation said nothing like what you quoted, but in fact the opposite. I suppose I could have assumed you had simply picked a paragraph to quote with your hand over your eyes and put no thought in to it whatsoever, but I usually give people more credit than that. I assumed that you were trying to sum up the posts with that quote, which as it turns out is exactly what you were doing. If you were in fact posting blindly with no though or opinion on what you were posting, then I suppose I apologize. And may I suggest that in the future when you post something, you put some thought in to it, thereby avoiding these needless misunderstandings.

[KingHorse]

I didn't ignore anything. I posted the "latest news". I wasn't trying to make it look like anything, except that Zimmerman had a relationship with the police, and found it odd to have a man that was just involved in an incident where another man was shot, was in the police station.



I know what you're doing, and I'm not playing.

Don't try to take the moral high ground and lecture me on my postings. You jumped the gun, I didn't.

You made assumptions of what my opinion is, based on what I said was reported by news sites. I never suggested Zimmerman was racist, got off the hook, should be put to death, or whatever position you assumed I was taking that you didn't agree with. I simply pointed out that the latest news story involved him being intimate with the Sanford police station, with a reference to him being in the police station unaccompanied. You don't think that's weird?

Here's my suggestion to you - rather than assume my position, calmly respond to my initial post and state that the articles had mentions of things I left out in my original summation of the news story, rather than try to build your strawman from my limited recap just so you can pump your chest after burning it down.

That would've allowed these needless misunderstandings to never happen.

Let me ask you a question: do you honestly think that you provided a summation that fairly stated what those articles were about?

[KingHorse]

My intention was to link sources. I usually give a quote from the article so that people who are interested don't avoid the link in fear of virus, etc. It's mostly a courtesy to give them an idea of what they're about to click on.

So now you weren't trying to summarize, you were actually trying to protect the world from fear of viruses. Understood.

If you'd like, I will happily submit all my future postings to you so that they get the KingHorse stamp of approval before I unleash it on the world. Or, you can just forget assumptions and treat people respectfully.

Allowing me to approve your links would likely be easier than all that backpedaling you're doing. Though the backpedaling is better exercise for lean calf muscles.