How is everyone okay with this?

[Packers]

I don't understand how so many people are just okay with what has happened with the annual pass. The way the contract was originally worded which I believe said "Beta access will go live with the beta launch" made it sound like we all would get in when right when beta came out, and that video where the blizzard guy specifically stating we would get in the beta when it came out didn't help Blizzards case. *I know it didn't say "You WILL get in beta the second it comes out" but it implied it, it also didn't say something like "beta invites will begin when beta goes live". However everyone on the forums thinks its okay to heavily imply instant beta access and also says it's okay for a company to make a contract that "is subject to change". Honestly, that cant be legally binding, but people are still on Blizzards dick. Seriously, so they can change the contract to say if we signed it we have to give them 50 extra bucks? I mean it's subject to change right?

Technically the contract could even say "You will recieve beta access when beta goes live" and that still could mean any time during beta since your still getting it when beta is live, but we all know what it sounds like.

Like think about how unfair we have been treated, I have the AP and I didnt get in beta but I wont try and cancel or anything I just don't see how ANYONE could possibly side with Blizz on this, like seriously, I have never used the term 'fanboy' or really thought it could exist to such an extent, but if you defend Blizz now you will defend them through anything, and to me are the definition of a 'fanboy'.*

In summary, I don't think Blizzard deserves a class action lawsuit or something of the sort, I just think they should at least issue a public apology for thier misleading actions, and I think if you defend a contract that can change to whatever it wants whenever it wants and a very misleading advertisement, you really should take a look at what you stand for and whether or not you would die for Blizzard.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOyp3u8FNT8 1:56 (The youtube video I was speaking of) "You will also get guaranteed access into the next World of Warcraft expansion beta WHEN IT GOES LIVE"

[potaco]

People are defending Blizzard because:

1) They interpreted the situation the "right" way
2) They want to gloat about it to those that didn't
3) They love drama

Anyone who is unable to admit that it is possible to feel misled by this situation is simply unable to empathize. The wording was ambiguous and many people misinterpreted it. Even if Blizzard didn't do anything "illegal", people are still allowed to feel deceived.

[JeKv]

People are allowed to feel deceived, and I'm allowed to think they're being ridiculous.

[Youvegotfail]

The first QQ post i read on this subject, the OP even admitted that the contract stated they have a right to change whatever they want about the agreement at any time. I didn't read the contract (nor did i even sign up for annual pass) but if that's the case then there ain't shit anyone can do about it. Does it suck? Sure, but in this day and age if you don't read the fine print you've got no one to blame but yourself.

[Deleted]

I'm ok with it since I have patience and I know that running a company is difficult. Ontop of that, the contract was subjected to change. That means Blizzard didn't do anything wrong.
Just have patience. It's not that a big of a deal. People tend to take things way too serious all the time. That doesn't mean you should let people walk all over you. But is it really worth all the stress you're going through? Life isn't fair and it never will be. I want fair chances for everyone, but that simply isn't going to happen.

Patience.



Patience.

[Biggles Worth]

I'm not siding with anyone besides the wahmbulance.

[Deleted]

Stupidity is hard to cure.

[Strakha]

So you are upset because they didn't let you do volunteer work after they charged you money? It just reduces enjoyment of the final product, I get into betas somehow but I always look at it as work, not really a fun thing to do, I write extensive bitchy reports(Death Stike wtf) to them when I do get in, because I don't see it as a preview of a game, I see it as volunteer work to make the game better.

Don't be upset with them, it's a burden at best.

[Bitlovin]

I have the AP and I didnt get in beta

Life is SO unfair.

[Deficineiron]

The first QQ post i read on this subject, the OP even admitted that the contract stated they have a right to change whatever they want about the agreement at any time. I didn't read the contract (nor did i even sign up for annual pass) but if that's the case then there ain't shit anyone can do about it. Does it suck? Sure, but in this day and age if you don't read the fine print you've got no one to blame but yourself.

Posts like this which pretend that ANYONE (but possibly some marginal personalities representing a miniscule fraction of the western playerbase) ever reads a multi-page contract for a 15$ a month video game should just be laughed away, along with the poster. It is one of the weakest 'arguments' there is.

Secondly, why bother to read the fine print? it undoubtedly says blizzard can simply not release diablo3 or mop beta ever and the annual pass remains binding. If the best folks defending blizzard can do is the wormy lawyer dance, it is pretty damning.

In reality, they strongly implied if not outright said that you would get in the beta when it went live, and described diablo 3 as coming out in early 2012. From a human view point (rather than a legal viewpoint which views customers who are unhappy as adversaries to be proven wrong), there is certainly justification for players belatedly figuring out annual pass was too good to be true, as it was described at the time.

[Skizzit]

In all honesty, I am dumbfounded that everyone really though then would all get beta access the first day of the beta testing. Did you really think Blizzard was just to unleash 1 million people onto the beta server at once? They wouldn't be able to test anything. Beta tests have to start off slow to test all the systems and make sure everything is running correctly with minimum stress on the server and then begin to ramp up by opening more zones and adding more people until they are satisfied everything is working as far as the game is concerned and they run a stress test by getting as many people as they can on the servers to really push it to the limits and make sure it can handle it.

Beta tests are not a free demo, sneak peek, or early access. They are meant to test every bit of the game to make sure there are no bugs. Of course most people are not going to see it as a test mostly because Blizzard gave access to people as prizes. That's their biggest mistake with the whole thing. If you treat your beta test as a bonus early look / demo prize, then that is how the players are going to view it. I hope they learned thier lesson with this and will not try to do it again with the next expansion.

[Keile]

People are defending Blizzard because:

1) They interpreted the situation the "right" way
2) They want to gloat about it to those that didn't
3) They love drama

Anyone who is unable to admit that it is possible to feel misled by this situation is simply unable to empathize. The wording was ambiguous and many people misinterpreted it. Even if Blizzard didn't do anything "illegal", people are still allowed to feel deceived.

I read the original terms on the Annual Pass the DAY it was first made available (as in before they reworded it).

"You will recieve beta access when beta goes live" IS what it said, and that means you could get it anywhere from the moment it went up to the day before it ends.

But those who are arguing about the AP...are actually the minority here. Out of >1Million people maybe .2% (~2000 or so) of them are being vocal about this. They are the minority, but they are the ones who speak up the loudest. So it only SEEMS like they have more support than the rest. This actually fits in with most situations with the game with people complaining about this or that.

The main push they had for AP wasn't even the MoP beta. It was the FREE DIABLO 3. Hell, I didn't even notice the free MoP Beta until I read the Terms for the AP.
Also, there is no grounds for a lawsuit. It would fail horribly, as Blizzard did nothing illegal.

[smelltheglove]

was the advertising disingenuous? yes. am i worked up over it? not really

more annoying is all the forum "lawyers" chanting "read the contract, derp!"

[potaco]

Sure, but in this day and age if you don't read the fine print you've got no one to blame but yourself.

That's a very cynical way to look at the world.

People trusted Blizzard more than they should have, based on their multiple decade track record and reputation. Is there a lesson to be learned here? Of course, but to treat everything like an "every man for himself" situation is just depressing. The fact that so many people were willing to sign up for the AP even after admitting that the contract didn't say exactly what they expected speaks huge volumes about Blizzard.

[jsz]

Someone post the supposed INCONTROVERTIBLE EVIDENCE that flat-out said you would get beta access in the first wave.

[Ovacor]

People believe they are entitled to everything now, it is absolutely ridiculous. Blizzard has the right to change what they want with the agreement, you should have known that upon signing the contract. If you were really expecting Blizzard to let in over 1,000,000 players for the first wave of Beta invites you are absolutely out of your mind. I completely fail to see the obsession with getting Beta invites, you get to test an unfinished game. Yippie?

[frequency]

"...when beta goes live..."
When is a conditional, meaning at a time when beta is available you will have access to it.
When does not mean, the moment beta is available you will receive access.

[Deleted]

People should not be okay with it.

So if im ok with that just because i want my D3, and nothing else; im wrong?

[Rotted]

Life a bitch, lesson number 1

and you really shouldn't be moaning about it, you should be grateful you were in a good finical situation to begin with to sign up for 12 months, and be dammed grateful youve got diablo 3 from it, as well as a ingame mount

[Deleted]

I don't think many people got the annual pass for the beta, most likely because they play wow and they want diablo 3 (atleast thats the reason me and my friends got it)

It would be pretty silly to pay for a years subscription of a game just to get beta access to the expansion only