1. #1

    why do warlock/shaman have synergy?

    hi i am trying to decide the most OP classes to use for 3v3. I already have a decent holy paladin partner which can pretty much tank most single dps and also comes with a god mode button.

    I want my other partners to be a healer and a dps. one dps that is very good, and can probably wear some pve gear since we have 2 healers.


    Why would warlock/shaman be so great if I do 3v3 with a single dps? People say they are a good combo yet I almost never see this combination.
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  2. #2
    dbl healer warlock wont score kills, but wont die either.

    Gl with your 45 min tie goals of 2012.

  3. #3
    If you are really intent on playing 1 dps - 2 healers, I'd suggest that one of the healers be a disc priest. And that you go with a burstier (glass-canon) style dps like a DK or a mage.

  4. #4
    Most op class in 3v3 is Rogue, lock and shaman. Make sure the rogue has legendaries and heroic vial. Make sure the lock has Rakthah and Heroic Cunning. Make sure both these DPS are human. Make sure the shaman is able to press spirit link and earth shield. All you now do is put aids everywhere, pets, it doesn't matter. Don't even need to CC, you guys are RLS! You can do what you want. Just train whoever with the rogue. This is Cataclysm.
    this game sucks

  5. #5
    Because Restoration Shamans are over the top in general. Great healing, good CC and great survivability.
    Warlocks have insane pressure as well. Their Demon Armor allow them to stay alive for a long time in conjunction with Shaman healing.

  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by rektlol View Post
    Most op class in 3v3 is Rogue, lock and shaman. Make sure the rogue has legendaries and heroic vial. Make sure the lock has Rakthah and Heroic Cunning. Make sure both these DPS are human. Make sure the shaman is able to press spirit link and earth shield. All you now do is put aids everywhere, pets, it doesn't matter. Don't even need to CC, you guys are RLS! You can do what you want. Just train whoever with the rogue. This is Cataclysm.
    hihi lol'd <3

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by rektlol View Post
    Most op class in 3v3 is Rogue, lock and shaman. Make sure the rogue has legendaries and heroic vial. Make sure the lock has Rakthah and Heroic Cunning. Make sure both these DPS are human. Make sure the shaman is able to press spirit link and earth shield. All you now do is put aids everywhere, pets, it doesn't matter. Don't even need to CC, you guys are RLS! You can do what you want. Just train whoever with the rogue. This is Cataclysm.
    ::sad chuckle::
    hurts so bad

  8. #8
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    Read: If you could keep the spammy comments in your pants that'd be great.

    Anyway, lock/shaman has ridiculous synergy (and RLS as a whole) because of how well shaman mastery stacks coupled with the cataclysm shaman playstyle (spam dispel and fake until you have to land a big heal capitalizing on the mastery bonus) fits into the lock/rogue +healing received. That's obviously not all, the fact fear and hex are on different DRs and how easily an RLS can peel whatever target's being focused also comes into play, plus the obvious - shamans are stupidly good, locks are stupidly good, and rogues are rogues.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Obelodalix View Post
    shaman playstyle (... mastery bonus) fits into the lock/rogue +healing received.
    Incase anyone is wondering:

    Shaman Mastery
    Deep Healing
    Increases the potency of your healing spells by up to x%, based on the current health level of your target (lower health targets are healed for more). Each point of Mastery increases healing by up to an additional 3.0%.
    Basically - the lower your targets health, the more your healing does. This rewards healing people on lower health instead of trying to keep people constantly topped.


    Rogue +Healing
    Quickening
    All healing effects on you are increased by 20% and your movement speed is increased by 15%.
    Quite simple. Instead of getting healed for 30k, you now get healed for 36k.


    Warlock +Healing
    Demon Armor
    Protects the caster, increasing armor by 2345, and increasing the amount of health generated through spells and effects by 20%.
    Note: This can be bumped up to 30% if the warlock puts 2 points in this.
    Much like the Rogue +healing, it increases your healing received by 20-30%. If talented, a heal for 30k will turn out to be 39k.


    Long story short: A shaman's riptide completely unbuffed ticks for 3.5k every second or so. If earth shield is on that target, it's now 4k every second. If the target is at say, 40% health, the shaman gains +20% healing on them. This 4k riptide is now nearly 5k. Due to +healing on Rogues and Warlocks, the heal is now 6k. Add in both Warlock and Rogues selfheal (recuperate + drain life/haunt) and Rogue peels and Warlock's spread pressure, and you've not only got constant 6-7k healing ticks on every member, every second. (+healing stream, +earth shield [ignoring crits]) - you've got an extremely hard to kill comp with 2 extremely hard-hitting DPSers with a lot of CC. The only way to kill an RLS safely is to kill them before they get momentum - which is why RMP and Triple DPS perform so well against them. (With PVE gear)

    Another reason Lock/Shaman/X works so well is because it is extremely forgiving. If a Shaman eats a full counterspell his HoTs are still ticking - and his partner will likely be at low health once the silence is over so he benefits more from mastery. If a Warlock gets in a bad spot, he can teleport or AoE fear. If a Warlock eats a full counterspell his DoTs are still ticking. It all just fits together very well.
    Last edited by Snuggli; 2012-04-12 at 12:02 PM.

  10. #10
    Great explanation, WolfBanei

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by rektlol View Post
    Most op class in 3v3 is Rogue, lock and shaman. Make sure the rogue has legendaries and heroic vial. Make sure the lock has Rakthah and Heroic Cunning. Make sure both these DPS are human. Make sure the shaman is able to press spirit link and earth shield. All you now do is put aids everywhere, pets, it doesn't matter. Don't even need to CC, you guys are RLS! You can do what you want. Just train whoever with the rogue. This is Cataclysm.
    This right here.

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