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    Full set up for SoI and I gotta say that this set is leagues better than BFZ, which makes you wonder if it was because this was specifically designed around the new block structure or because the right people were picked for the job. The flavor is much better and there are a lot of cards with plenty of uses, even Geistblast has plenty of uses for creative deck building or EDH shenanigans.

    Seeing scarecrows again is awesome, seeing a mole for the first time is awesome, seeing another proper Nightmare creature is awesome.

    I do quite enjoy the love my Mazirek EDH is going to get from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Full set up for SoI and I gotta say that this set is leagues better than BFZ, which makes you wonder if it was because this was specifically designed around the new block structure or because the right people were picked for the job. The flavor is much better and there are a lot of cards with plenty of uses, even Geistblast has plenty of uses for creative deck building or EDH shenanigans.

    Seeing scarecrows again is awesome, seeing a mole for the first time is awesome, seeing another proper Nightmare creature is awesome.

    I do quite enjoy the love my Mazirek EDH is going to get from this.
    That's how I feel. As a mainly EDH player, I gave BFZ a big ol' meeeeeehhhhhhh. I think I used maybe three cards out of the entire set, and I have 13 EDH decks. This one on the other hand, it isn't so much that there are a lot of cards that I will use, but I see a lot that I know my friends can use in their EDH decks, and several I'll be using in my 60 card kitchen table legacy decks. And yeah, the set is just so much more flavorful.
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    Since Black is my main color, I'm really loving the cards in SoI. I just felt so shafted in the the BFZ block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbramancer View Post
    Since Black is my main color, I'm really loving the cards in SoI. I just felt so shafted in the the BFZ block.
    Practically everyone felt shafted by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Practically everyone felt shafted by it.
    It just felt so flavorless. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbramancer View Post
    It just felt so flavorless. :/
    That it was, not to mention far weaker than most sets are, were very lottery ticket esque with the Expeditions, and even the lowest of expectations barely being met.

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  7. #1947
    Well Ancestral Visions and Sword of the Meek got unbanned in Modern, and AV jumped to more than twice its price and Sword practically quintupled.

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    Well, visions is a good unban. It is unlikely to end up in dominating deck, if it is even used at all. Sword, I am less certain. The golem restriction is MASSIVE for vintage. It is one of the biggest ones ever, definitely the biggest impact in modern times.

    Eye is expected and necessary. Could be temple and mimic instead, to preserve tron, but this gets the job done with just one ban and prevents other corner cases.

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    Wow. I have a foil Sword of the Meek. About a year ago a friend wanted it for a deck, offered me $5 for it. Glad I didn't accept the offer. That sucker's going on ebay for $75 right meow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by endersblade View Post
    Wow. I have a foil Sword of the Meek. About a year ago a friend wanted it for a deck, offered me $5 for it. Glad I didn't accept the offer. That sucker's going on ebay for $75 right meow.
    The two Ancestral Visions I have from Duel Decks are quite happy about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    The two Ancestral Visions I have from Duel Decks are quite happy about it.

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    This has to be the one Magic centric Youtuber that truly pisses me off. I just.....how do you not know about that color indicator? It's been around for almost 5 years and used in 3 different sets before SoI.

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    Generation ADHD.
    Not only that, but he is one of those players that constantly complains about things like combo and control, blue in general, and wants things like Lightning Bolt banned in Modern and is under the impression that the red Beacon is too OP. Thinks Storm is unstoppable, while also saying you can beat it, and in general thinks the game is so easily broken. He bashes netdeckers like they are trash, and thinks almost every card in the top 10 Modern decks needs banned in the format so "you can get the other cards more easily."

    He thinks Magic will crumble underneath Thing in the Ice and Cryptolith Rite, saying Storm will be too strong to stop with Thing.

    He is pure frustration from the random shit he says.

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  13. #1953
    Found this rather interesting. Looks like Wizards may have been testing dual flip cards at one time, which has led someone to believe we will be seeing that in the next set for whatever big crazy thing we are about to see.

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    Could you explain what a dual flip card is, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkle View Post
    Could you explain what a dual flip card is, please?
    Is it too much effort to click on the link he provided?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkle View Post
    Could you explain what a dual flip card is, please?
    Two separate cards that flip over to become one single card. Much like in the same vein that B.F.M. is two cards you need to play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endersblade View Post
    Is it too much effort to click on the link he provided?
    I clicked the link. I saw no explanation, nor anything that would fit the name, and therefore, I opted to ask.

    Why the fuck do people online think a question is a negative thing? Is this how you act in real life, in your jobs, in your day-to-day operations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Two separate cards that flip over to become one single card. Much like in the same vein that B.F.M. is two cards you need to play it.
    Thank you. Seems a crappy name for it, if you ask me. Extremely non-descriptive. Still, doubt this is enough evidence to conclude that there was a test, and quite possibly it might just have been an error. I mean, it's not like it has not happened before, and when it did I don't remember anyone speculating about this. Is there any actual evidence other than that crad printed over two cardspaces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorkle View Post
    Thank you. Seems a crappy name for it, if you ask me. Extremely non-descriptive. Still, doubt this is enough evidence to conclude that there was a test, and quite possibly it might just have been an error. I mean, it's not like it has not happened before, and when it did I don't remember anyone speculating about this. Is there any actual evidence other than that crad printed over two cardspaces?
    It seems there were a few test prints like this and the reason that image exists is someone was able to buy it off of Ebay. On the Endbringer side the name area has a space for a sun/moon, which is about the best evidence towards a real test on it. Of course I will agree it would need work to truly be capable. A few card games have tested the two card thing, mostly Duel Masters though and then there is Pokemon a few times.

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  19. #1959
    So I bought a fat pack and a precon. I got the spirit precon, because that's the deck I ended up with in the first Innistrad, and also they didn't have much choice at work.

    I don't like investigate. It seems really slow, but the main problem is, it's integrated to be a blue/green deck. Guess which two colors has the least issue drawing cards? Yeah.

    I also don't like delirium.

    Out of the fat pack and the two boosters from the precon, all I really ended up with was two Startled Awake's. Which I like. I got one Shamble Back, whichc I still contest is super OP for a one-drop common (he says while he cradles his Ezuri Archers)

    Got Tamiyo's Journal, which is cool. Gives an alternate use for the clues.

    Got a Forgotten Creation, which my friend wants.

    Tenacity is a nice uncommon, as is Uninvited Guest. And Essence Flux. I got Thalia's Lieutenant, which is a nice callback to Mikaeus.

    Grotesque Mutation is also a nice common.

    And now I want a human deck. Ooh, and they should bring back curses, and try to make them a relevant deck (mine had very few creatures and was at least four colors).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    So I bought a fat pack and a precon. I got the spirit precon, because that's the deck I ended up with in the first Innistrad, and also they didn't have much choice at work.

    I don't like investigate. It seems really slow, but the main problem is, it's integrated to be a blue/green deck. Guess which two colors has the least issue drawing cards? Yeah.

    I also don't like delirium.

    Out of the fat pack and the two boosters from the precon, all I really ended up with was two Startled Awake's. Which I like. I got one Shamble Back, whichc I still contest is super OP for a one-drop common (he says while he cradles his Ezuri Archers)

    Got Tamiyo's Journal, which is cool. Gives an alternate use for the clues.

    Got a Forgotten Creation, which my friend wants.

    Tenacity is a nice uncommon, as is Uninvited Guest. And Essence Flux. I got Thalia's Lieutenant, which is a nice callback to Mikaeus.

    Grotesque Mutation is also a nice common.

    And now I want a human deck. Ooh, and they should bring back curses, and try to make them a relevant deck (mine had very few creatures and was at least four colors).
    I personally love clues and investigate, but then again I've been using things like Ulvenwald Mysteries and Tireless Tracker in EDH decks and it is very enjoyable to just be able to draw cards in decks that have a little harder time of doing so.

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