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    Glyph of Cone of Cold on any fight that includes adds (I keep it on permanently just so I don't forget about it). Glyph of Arcane Power on fights in which you are able to have 25-30 second nuke phases with close to no movement and you can do it every 3 minutes. Fights like this are near non-existent in this tier. There's a rough estimate in the guide on the first page. I also use glyph of double blink all the time because it helps me move around and lets you do some mechanics well like the prisons and rifts on Sha and other fights depending on tactics. I urge you to explore glyphs on your own through raiding experience, that's the most helpful I can be at this point. Getting a fixed formula for stuff that involves raid movement is a fast way to failure because guilds have different strategies and your movement habits also play a huge role.
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    For the first 12 bosses I go with AP glyph, CoC glyph and AE. I only do this because we lust at the start of every boss except for norushen, klaxxi and garrosh.

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    Though, I suppose your guild has far superior dps to guilds still working on progress so you can pull it off like that
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  4. #2824
    For sure, AP is a farm glyph for fights like Sha of pride. Also I lied a little bit, we don't lust off the start on galakras either but lust and AP line up as gal comes down and on IJ I use AP, double blink and armors, I'll let you guys use your imaginations to figure out why

  5. #2825
    For the first 12 bosses I go with AP glyph, CoC glyph and AE
    What Voltaa said.
    My guild also uses lust in the start of most encounters, so AP for the most bosses!
    Only glyph I really toy with for some fights are double blink in exchange for either AE>CoC>AP according to encounter. However it's not really needed much by now, and the greatest dps potential are in those 3 glyphs(coc/ae/ap) if played right, and with the encounters we see in SoO with loads of great uses for coc/ae on multi and single target.

    Btw Voltaa - I see u run with wf BBoY - how is it compared to wf ktt? I would love to try and play with it, since the potential and the ekstra stats in bboy seems a lot more fun by now, than the static dmg from ktt. (need to get it in raid tho^^)
    Is it better in your opinion? Guess it's one of the trinkets that kinda individual as well, getting the most outta maxing the inzane int proc etc.

  6. #2826
    I would use 574 KTT over my 580 BBOY if I had one

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltaa View Post
    Mage armor for every boss (assuming heroic) except for Iron Jugg.

    Living bomb for every boss except Protectors, Norushen, Galakras and spoils (use NT for shamans if you stack them though)
    Would you not want Frost Armour for Sha, Malk, Thok, Paragons and Phase 4 Garrosh though? The adds in those fights really don't tend to live long enough for it to seem worth it.

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    Depends if you care about effective DPS or meter-padding.

  10. #2830
    Quote Originally Posted by Mishh View Post
    Depends if you care about effective DPS or meter-padding.
    Pretty much this, all of those fights have more than 1 target up for for 60% of the fight or more making MA pull ahead, and yes I do switch to FA for p4 Garrosh but I am not sure if the amount of time that there is an add up (if ironstar is a second off) is worth keeping MA or switching yet...it's a tough one to test, I am sure that as the fight gets further into farm status letting more and more adds get through for pad will become commonplace and MA will pull ahead again.

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    The 4-set doesn't like proccing a lot, but when it does it's party time woohoo finally upgraded my gear to a point where I'm not embarrassed about being in a raid full of normal and heroic geared people. So after being "back" to instanced and organized raiding for a full 3 raid nights, I went from 544 to 560 and got the 4-set bonus. Please feel free to comment on my setup if you think I should change something. The only items I have in my inventory that can be changed are the T16 normal helmet and the Heroic Ding Dong Chung shoulders (that's not their name but it's how I remember it).

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...galar/advanced

    Basically I have hit, haste and mastery where I want them to be, but if you think of something tell me. Unfortunately I missed on getting the Totem trinket today as someone else with higher priority needed it. (I figured out just now that my chest isn't enchanted... since Wednesday.)
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  12. #2832
    Examine the gems in your shoes/weapon If you swapped the yellow to green and the purple to yellow it would immediately be better but there's perhaps an even better combination if you looked closer with amr or something

  13. #2833
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    Hi Mages,

    restarted playing Arcane. Just thinking about playing my Specc with 2pc + 2 HC Items. Is it fine or shall i wear Shoulder nhc Set pc and Legs nhc Set pc ?
    I'm not sure. Any hints? I also have Flamesinger's Fiery Cowl HC for Head Posi. maybe to reach the 13163 Haste Cap. Thx 4 any Hints...
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  14. #2834
    Shang, swap your weapon to hit mast and your boots to full mast as was stated, but also swap all of your reds except 2 to expertise mastery, if you use the AMR addon then just paste this into it. You can gain 5.06% mastery at the cost of .06% haste and less than 200 spell power.

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    The hit you get from the gem socket on those boots just isn't worth going for. Same with the haste on the thok ring when you get it, just jam a yellow one in there.



    Istreddu, for the gear you have I would strongly suggest using 4 set with the legs as your offpiece until you get more optimal/warforged offpieces. The 4 set is amazing for progression for two reasons, it is a decent damage increase when it procs, more missiles is more damage spending less mana staying at max stacks longer etc. The other reason it is so good for progression is it's more damage directed at your kill target, I use 3 offpiece and while I do a lot of damage, I average less damage on the actual kill target than Eightroad (other mage in my guild) because he uses the 4 set. At the end of garrosh we will be close in overall damage, but he sometimes has up to 10 million more boss damage than I do, and that's quite a big deal.

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    So i need the Head Set pc of Thok HC xD

    and thx for the quick reply voltaa
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  16. #2836
    Hello all,

    I am currently working on H Garrosh we had a couple p4 wipes, but I am just not satisfied with either fire or frost on this fight in 10 man where you have to do a lot of things that normally wouldn't be need in 25 man. I am just looking for some advise as to how viable is Arcane on H Garrosh and what would you suggest with my current gear selection etc. Any tips/tricks and glyph selection will help immensely and as always appreciate the feedback. I do have to switch out some gems as for some reason I didn't catch that I am way over hit capped.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Casdon/simple
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  17. #2837
    Quote Originally Posted by voltaa View Post
    Mage armor for every boss (assuming heroic) except for Iron Jugg.

    Living bomb for every boss except Protectors, Norushen, Galakras and spoils (use NT for shamans if you stack them though)
    Hi Voltaa - My armory is below but we are working on Thok heroic (just to say where I am at). Should I still be using the 9762 breakpoint override? AMR is suggesting to boost haste. Haven't done any simulations yet but is it pretty established with my gear level where you should set these at and if they are even necessary?

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lenis/advanced

  18. #2838
    Antiscian, the AMR results I am getting for you are dropping a small portion of mastery for almost 6% haste and I for sure agree with it.

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    Stick with the 9762 breakpoint whenever possible, it has benefit for any NT fight. For thok progression I also would suggest using FA over MA. MA will be more damage but 1. FA will do more single target to thok and 2. It's way easier to deal with the interupts with faster casts.

  19. #2839
    Hi Arcane friends,

    Just switched to arcane tonight as i'm in a 25man guild now, if any one has two seconds can you please go over my gear/geming and let me know if I have done anything wrong. It will be very much appreciated.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%B2wy/advanced

    Regards

  20. #2840
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Hi Arcane friends,

    Just switched to arcane tonight as i'm in a 25man guild now, if any one has two seconds can you please go over my gear/geming and let me know if I have done anything wrong. It will be very much appreciated.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%B2wy/advanced

    Regards
    You'd be better off dropping the Expertise/Mastery gems for Intellect/Mastery gems because you're 2.5% over the hit cap. Otherwise it's fine.

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