Yeah that's what I've done, it just works out that Lei Shin's is up before DMV in almost all cases. In SimCraft, Lei Shin's has an interval of just under 52s, which means youre delaying AW by about 19 seconds to line up with every other Lei Shin's proc (52+52 = 104 = 85 + 19). DMV has an interval of 111s, so you get slightly more and more off sync as the fight goes on. I'll check and see if it's better to wait for DMV instead of Lei Shin's, though I suspect the extra wait time results in an overall loss.
Tests are in:
Either: 112954 dps
Lei Shin's only: 112590 dps
DMV only: 111759 dps
I would guess that the main reason it's better to wait for either is on the pull; you might get a really early DMV proc and a late Lei Shin's proc. You pop AW/GoAK as soon as either of them procs, but from then on, unless you have bad RNG on Lei Shin's, and good RNG on DMV, you'll only be waiting for Lei Shin's.
Last edited by Zephur; 2012-10-05 at 08:55 PM.
Need modeling for bonelink and it's ap scaling at T14H
Likely strong bis contender on Jade statues.
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Vortex going off sync before execute is actually a good thing though.
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I wish you could get dancing steel numbers.
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REMEMBER! Too many fights have adds/ strong gimmics <Elegon/ Wind Lord/ Will of Emperor Physical damage taken.
Trinket values on a static sheet are not end all be all numbers.
For instance..... relic of Xuen + Lei shins could beat Vortex on Elegon during the end where u do upwards of 600k dps and lust + Guardian is active.
Last edited by anaxie; 2012-10-06 at 10:04 AM.
Maybe you can the icd's behind each trinket.
Relix of Xuen is 45 seconds yes?
Would be useful to have the ICD's listed of all the proc trinkets on the front page, I for one set these up in clcinfo, to track them to make for easier alignment of them with cooldowns. Im guessing others are going to find this useful too
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=128986 is the DMC buffreturn IconICD(128986, 55, 0, 1, 0.3)
Sorry folks, had a busy weekend. Updated OP with trinket ICDs, and added a link to the Excel spreadsheet. Check for errors!
Brewfest trinket is missing, any estimates on it?
Armory links: Paladin Death Knight
Also, CCCC and Ghost Iron Dragonling are in the spreadsheet if you're curious.
Seeing as there are a few questions about trinkets in Anaxie's thread, bumping this so more people see it.
How does normal JCF beat Iron-Belly Wok when they appear to have the same stats and the same use?
Normal and Heroic JCF have the incorrect proc value in WoWDB. They are actually 3595 and 4580, respectively. I pulled the normal number from post #6, and extrapolated the heroic value based on that.
Edit; Scratch that, looks like correct values were added recently. Had a few numbers off, so I'll fix it now.
Last edited by Zephur; 2012-10-16 at 06:02 PM.
I wanted to thank you for your work on this. Excellent job, really nice to have and look at. Keep it up!
Are these ranks based on 4 set. I would assume yes? I'm going to link to this thread if you are competent enough to keep it as updated as Kisko did his. I have a list for Pre 4 set BiS that gives an edge towards WoK and the haste proc trinket until the both pull ahead and shien steamrolls competition solely on proc icd and wings cd.
Could you do a non 4 set sim for funseys with trinkets?
Alright. I put together a set that is pretty much BiS, except it only has three pieces of t14. BiS trinkets are still Lei Shin's and DMV.
Stat priority is almost the same as with 4pc, but crit > mastery by a bit. Looks like it's a 10k (~9.8%) dps increase on a patchwerk fight.
Hit (3.71) > Str (3.23) > Exp (2.58) > Haste (1.69) Crit (1.40) > Mastery (1.32)
H Lei Shin > H DMV > N Lei Shin > Relic of Xuen > N DMV > H JCF > LFR Lei Shin > Zen Alch Stone > LFR DMV > Daelo's Final Words > Lessons of the Darkmaster > N JCF / Iron Belly Wok > LFR JCF
I would guess that Daelo's and Lessons are ranked higher than they should be because of great static stats. Expect to get 20% more value from any trinket by getting 4pc. Less so from Zen Alch Stone, Daelo's, & Lessons.
I'll put in the actual numbers tomorrow.