Ello, this isnt a my e-peen is bigger then yours thread. Hopefully I can get some insight as to why people are complaining about those 2 classes so much. I am a frost dk in full dreadful and I have yet to lose to anyone in a 1v1 scenario in a bg. On more then one occasion I have killed a 2 warriors at the same time, I bassically use ibf off the bat to avoid the 20 second stun they got and then I wait till i got em at 35% to pop my cd's so i can burst em down. The only thing I cant kill is a Prot warrior, especially if he has help. Mages are "lol" especially now, before i had to wait until he blinked to grip em and a skilled mage could endlessly kite me as frost. However now with our double grip im the mage killer. The last BG I did, I was @ 10 million damage for the fight, the next person on the chart was a hunter at 6 million damage, I also had 29 KBS. So why are people saying these classes are overpowered, when apparently they still have a hard counter. Maybe im just to pro, idk.