1. #12881
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    If a real life company failed to deliver on products paid for all the while putting out newer products for sale then criminal charges would be being laid.
    This. Imagine a clothing company puts out "limited edition" shirts for $2,500 a pop and then completely forgets about them and 9 years later they're cranking out "limited edition" hoodies for $1,750 and not making those either.

    Star Citizen seems to be the perfect storm of borderline illegal, supported by fans who are mostly rabid due to the niche nature of the game, and having been launched during the "heyday" of Kickstarter game development that allows it to almost entirely avoid accountability for it's continual "over promise and under deliver" strategy.

  2. #12882
    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    You are just beating a dead horse entertaining any sort of meaningful discussion with him, he is a one trick pony and just says the same things over and over, its just boring at this point, i dont know why someone who has no intention of ever playing the game would waste time in a thread about a game he has no interest in at all.
    This is the funniest thing I've read in my life.

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    375$M in just crowd funding and not much to show.
    Well alot of people have faith in it, hope they get what they want, whenever that may be.

  4. #12884
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    If a real life company failed to deliver on products paid for all the while putting out newer products for sale then criminal charges would be being laid.
    You are not forced to back a project still in development, any money you give CiG beyond the base game is nothing more than a pledge of support for x amount, they have been delivering on gameplay for years with a playable version of the game throughout development.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    375$M in just crowd funding and not much to show.
    Well alot of people have faith in it, hope they get what they want, whenever that may be.
    Are you being serious, current alpha has a ton to show for what they have done with the game and the current alpha is not even a true representation on the actual work that has been done on the game, they are making 2 games not just one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Short-Peanut View Post
    Thats the main Gameplay Loop. And will be forever.

    Inside Star Citizen: Dynamic Range | Spring 2021 - Talks about health insurance. Starts at 8:16 for same great REAL LIFE IMMERSION GAMEPLAY

    Add the supposed Death of a Spaceman and its a hugh clusterfuck in my opinion. Some where i did read they are selling alt accs or have. Sure that won`t impact the "sandbox".
    Oh yes the whole game is gone be balanced around "Money" so lets put that in the shop too.
    You can buy 20.000 UEC for 23,80$. And this has been available for long time. The PU is Out. Just in Alpha stage.
    The in game economy is already at billions maybe even trillions. Sounds like fun
    Collecting ships is a small gameplay loop, you dont even need a ship to play the game, death is going to have meaning so you just dont do anything you want, there should be consequences to the players actions.

    The game is not balanced around money and progress will not carry over to the main game, there will always be another player with more money than you so its not going to effect your gameplay at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    Are you being serious, current alpha has a ton to show for what they have done with the game and the current alpha is not even a true representation on the actual work that has been done on the game, they are making 2 games not just one.
    I think it will be released for sure (due to funding) but a decade to create make me sceptical in what area it might lack in. Artistic development, story, network, producers, hell knows.

  6. #12886
    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    there will always be another player with more money than you so its not going to effect your gameplay at all.
    When is this ever true in any game? If homie can smack some cash down and buy a fancy whip, he can do more stuff more gooderer than I can in my used Honda Civic, can he not?

  7. #12887
    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    I think it will be released for sure (due to funding) but a decade to create make me sceptical in what area it might lack in. Artistic development, story, network, producers, hell knows.
    I think the time is very reasonable considering they are making 2 games, they had to build the company from nothing and build almost everything from the ground up, the game will take longer when it took several years for them to build up the company, SC is not a simple game either as having fully functional interiors and planets means they have to add in even more.
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  8. #12888
    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    I think the time is very reasonable considering they are making 2 games
    That is their fault. 9 years isn't reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    they had to build the company from nothing and build almost everything from the ground up
    They've had a 'family' photo that Anderson posted and the size of the team has grown quickly based on the money they got. Quit excusing 9 years of delays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    the game will take longer when it took several years for them to build up the company
    I don't remember them mentioning that in the Kickstarter or anywhere else. "Hey guys we need several years to build up the company before we make the game, thanks for the money though!'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    The game is not balanced around money and progress will not carry over to the main game, there will always be another player with more money than you so its not going to effect your gameplay at all.
    Pay 2 win in a game with PvP won't effect your gameplay, at all. Yupppp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    I think the time is very reasonable considering they are making 2 games, they had to build the company from nothing and build almost everything from the ground up, the game will take longer when it took several years for them to build up the company, SC is not a simple game either as having fully functional interiors and planets means they have to add in even more.
    They are many chefs making the soup as well, multiple studios.

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    will faces in star citizen ever get better? they look almost as plastic and fake as in ME andromeda. i mean, i love the graphics of SC, but the faces. why cant they look as good as in baldurs gate 3

  11. #12891
    Quote Originally Posted by Proskill View Post
    will faces in star citizen ever get better? they look almost as plastic and fake as in ME andromeda. i mean, i love the graphics of SC, but the faces.
    I'm not seeing any reworks for character faces scheduled on the roadmap, so I'm guessing not.

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    Gold Mine: https://imgur.com/a/P9PZSNw#rqIyqhw









    Dear lord, imagine, not just contradicting yourself with every post you make, but going against the words of lead developers themselves while calling others “arm chair developers”, this fandom needs Jesus.

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    350+ pictures of everything from open lies to someone dreaming about something not actually existing. Impressive, to say the least. But according to our two local posters everything in them is acceptable/misunderstood/coming/etc., right?

    Quote Originally Posted by notaltacc View Post
    this fandom needs Jesus.
    But my man... it already has one... xD
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    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    I'm not seeing any reworks for character faces scheduled on the roadmap, so I'm guessing not.
    but it is possible it will happen before the game is finally finished in the next 10\15 years, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    350+ pictures of everything from open lies to someone dreaming about something not actually existing. Impressive, to say the least. But according to our two local posters everything in them is acceptable/misunderstood/coming/etc., right?



    But my man... it already has one... xD
    Developing a game takes time and making a game that has not been done before will take more time, not to mention 2 games are being made not just one, GTA 6 will have been in development for 9-12 years by the time it releases for what is mainly a single player game, if you dont understand something dont comment about it claiming things you have no idea about.

    Newer generation games are taking much longer to develop now, new techs are being made to take advantage of more powerful components.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    Developing a game takes time and making a game that has not been done before will take more time, not to mention 2 games are being made not just one, GTA 6 will have been in development for 9-12 years by the time it releases for what is mainly a single player game, if you dont understand something dont comment about it claiming things you have no idea about.

    Newer generation games are taking much longer to develop now, new techs are being made to take advantage of more powerful components.
    This just needs to stop. "both games" are running on the same engine. Only difference being one will run on a server so multiple people can connect.

    otherwise we could claim ANY game that has multiplayer is 2 separate games. Hell GTAV could be called like 6 different games.



    if you dont understand something dont comment about it claiming things you have no idea about.

    Practice what you preach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    This just needs to stop. "both games" are running on the same engine. Only difference being one will run on a server so multiple people can connect.

    otherwise we could claim ANY game that has multiplayer is 2 separate games. Hell GTAV could be called like 6 different games.






    Practice what you preach
    Doesnt matter if both games are similar, they are still 2 seperate games where as GTA5 just uses the same map and throws in some instanced content which is not hard to create. Its obvious you dont understand the differences between SQ42 and the MMO universe if you think its just one game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    Doesnt matter if both games are similar, they are still 2 seperate games where as GTA5 just uses the same map and throws in some instanced content which is not hard to create. Its obvious you dont understand the differences between SQ42 and the MMO universe if you think its just one game.
    Whats the difference. What gonna be in the MMO that isn't in the single player and vice versa?

  19. #12899
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Whats the difference. What gonna be in the MMO that isn't in the single player and vice versa?
    SQ42 is just Star Citizen with a singleplayer campaign. Rather than being able to run around the galaxy and do whatever, you're instead going to be strapped into a linear storyline. You'll be a UEE fighter pilot. From the footage we've seen thus far, the missions will have a formula where you wake up on the Idris (your mothership), go to the mission briefing (NPCs standing next to a powerpoint presentation), go to the hangar, get in your ship, and then go off and do the mission. One of the missions shown thus far has you flying to a space station, getting out of your ship, and infiltrating the station for a stealth/FPS segment, where you try to reach a room (you can either do so by stealthing or running around shooting everyone). Presumably once you have completed your mission objective, you will fly back to the Idris, land, and the level will end. Rinse and repeat a dozen times and that's your campaign.

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    This should be simple, scripted stuff, no different from a Call of Duty campaign. It's funny how in the 9 years since Star Citizen was successfully kickstarted, 7 Call of Duty campaigns have been released, and yet CIG has yet to release a single SQ42 level.

  20. #12900
    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    Whats the difference. What gonna be in the MMO that isn't in the single player and vice versa?
    SQ42 is a single player campaign where your in the military in a war so it will only involve a handful of star systems, chances are you will not be flying any ships you have bought in SQ42 at all either, the MMO will have the whole universe to play and open up all job avenues to explore, so they are 2 different games even though they share assets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    This should be simple, scripted stuff, no different from a Call of Duty campaign. It's funny how in the 9 years since Star Citizen was successfully kickstarted, 7 Call of Duty campaigns have been released, and yet CIG has yet to release a single SQ42 level.
    CoD campaigns are nothing to be even remotely impressed about, you dont buy those games for the story as players just buy them for the mindless PvP.

    Building up a company, developing a game in a time where technology is also advancing to the next level for gaming is also why it is taking longer, it would be stupid not to add in any advancements to improve the game in the long term, space games are also harder to develop since they involve many more dimensions than a game like CoD.
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