Originally Posted by
Wowalixi
That graph isn't a very good representation of actual statistics. You're comparing raids that have been out for not even one expansion cycle yet to raids that have been out for what, nearly 3 years now? The reason you'll see a lot more Beast and Marrowgar kills is because you can jump into a raid with 10 idiots now and kill it on 25-man or 10-man. Meanwhile, not many people have gotten in the mood to go back and power through Cata content yet. I'm sure once you get to the end of MoP you will see Magmaw kills equaling nearly 2 million as people go back for transmog gear / achievements. It might actually be less now that achievements are shared, but if people want a piece of gear on their shaman, it will still count.
As for rewarding 25-mans, I'm against changing anything. Right now people have their choice of style and it's working pretty well. Sure there are less active 25-man guilds, but a lot of people who do raid in 25-man guilds will tell you that the effort is usually worth it. People who don't say that are clearly choosing the wrong style and are refusing to admit it, or to change their old traditions.
If anything, I would say make 25-mans a lot easier. I'm talking, put 25-man on a level between Normal / Raid Finder, put 10-man on a level between Normal / Heroic, and then make Heroics equally challenging, or maybe with 10-mans being slightly harder. This would generate a lot of interest in 25-mans because they can't down bosses in 10-man Normal, and the hardcore guilds could compete in 10-mans because that would be the most difficult of all the content. Essentially I'm saying just do what they did with Challenge Modes: smaller group, harder challenge. It would be like saying raiding with 25-mans is taking the easy way out, because it's the easiest mode, but you need to take your 10 best people in order to down any bosses in 10-man.
Of course, my solution has always been for Blizzard to just suck it up and make all raids 15-man. They completed the transition from 25 to 10 mans already, just do it one more time and solve all of your problems.
He wasn't saying you cherry-picked your raiders, he was saying that you're just selecting two bosses (out of 16) and saying that 10-man is easier.
Now I haven't raided 25-mans since TBC, but wouldn't Elegon / Stone Guards / Imperial Vizier all be easier on 25-man? In 10-man, Elegon is a nightmare because your DPS absolutely have to be up to snuff, and nobody can slack on killing their sparks. On 25-man, you have 3 people per spark, so even if one isn't pulling such good burst numbers the other two can save him. Stone Guards you have more tanking options and more DPS to run the tiles. Vizier you can stack Disc priests and have a ton of more healing cooldowns to get through Force and Verve (which I guess is irrelevant now since it's been nerfed to hell)