May I ask why people keep calling them kids and children? Or boy and girl?
One is 18 year old - legally an adult, the other is 17 - legal adult in a lot of countries, though not this one.
May I ask why people keep calling them kids and children? Or boy and girl?
One is 18 year old - legally an adult, the other is 17 - legal adult in a lot of countries, though not this one.
If he shots them and they can't fight anymore, they will run away, if they can't run, they will be fred not long after the ocasion, and as soons as they get the chance they will go back to the guy's house and just shoot him dead, or someone from his family.
Thank Zeus I never had to, but if something like that happened to me, or someone robbed me pointing a gun to my head and somehow i managed to get the robber's gun from him, I would just shot him dead so he wouldn't just come back later and do it to me. The system can't hold those people in jail forever, they will come out eventually and go back for you. Unless you want to move out because of an episode like that.
You see something is completely wrong when people have sympathy for a fucking society scum that should already be dead anyway.
Yeah, killing someone and not caring about it is sociopathic. I'm fine with that, you'll be in the psych ward soon where you can't harm anyone. And guess what, since you're in their home, they can do whatever they want to you.
Good.
No sense dwelling over a couple assholes.
So why did he drag her across the floor to kill her, an act that would have made him temporarily defenseless? And really.... multiple gun shots, and he was scared of people noticing. That does not follow in the least.
Also, again, legal precedent for delivering the killing blow outside of self defense.
I think it's a different situation when you're actually there. What was probably running through is mind was "Oh crap, now she's going to try to kill me" or "Oh crap, she's going to run away, get her friends and they're going to viciously torture me until I die of starvation or blood lose" or "Oh god, what do I do, what do I do!?!" He likely had only a few seconds to react and my guess would be that he was thinking the 1st and 2nd scenario were the most likely. He probably thought was going to be continually brutalized by all of their friends if he didn't take extreme action.
Yeah, I can't see it happening. I figure the prosecutor is keeping his or her fingers crossed, hoping the defendant pleas out to a lesser charge. Or that some sort of smoking gun, hehe, comes along that does actually prove he could not have still been reasonably fearful for his life at the time.
Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.
Alright, lets entertain that possibility.
Why did he spend the time to drag her across the floor? Why did he not call the police at all? Why did he leave the immediate scene to grab a second firearm, to return with the pistol to first severely wound and then kill the girl?
If he was so scared, why, when he had the time to leave the immediate scene to grab his second weapon, did he not call the police?
Whether or not you think its right when you break into a house you have to realize you may be breaking into an unstable persons house and be prepared for the consequences. Its a tragic story thats for sure did they deserve to die I dont know. Did he have a right to shoot them? Yes. Did he have a right to finish them off? Depends on whether he still felt threatened. Sadly because these two made a horrific mistake their story will never be told...
As a 17 year old, my personal belief is that the vast majority of people aren't truly adults at 18. In light of the adults (or children's) actions make me believe further that they really aren't mature enough to be considered an adult, even if there are adults that act worse than they do. Plus, it's easier to refer to them both as children than, the other adult and the teenager.
At very least he'll be convicted of some sort of manslaughter, which personally, I feel is just.
No, the kids weren't dangerous. They didn't have guns and they didn't show the will to harm another human being. If anything they only showed they were going to steal something. They didn't deserve to be shot dead.
Read through the thread. There are quite a few people advocating you can do ANYTHING to someone while they're in your home.
On a side note I wonder if people who advocate this man's actions are pro-life or pro-choice. You could argue that the womb is the woman's property that a fetus is invading, giving her the right to kill it if she wants.
camwhore no more.
Infracted. Constructive posts please.
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Also people are you forgetting the fact he went about his day NORMALLY. Showed no remorse and he didn't even call the cops it was his neighbor that was suspicious of him. On top of this took relish in a clean kill. None of this points to. "Maybe that guy has issues.." in your lots heads?
Panic. It's the same reason that hid the bodies after the whole thing went down, he likely thought that everyone would side against him, whether or not he was in the right or not, and it seems that he was right. I'm not justifying all of his actions, yes he should have called the police and he shouldn't have gotten a second firearm, but he was still in the right for the rest of the time. Which again, I think should put him in prison for a few years at worst.
If he had attempted to hide it? Absolutely.
From: http://www.kare11.com/news/article/9...eged-intruders
He didn't try to hide the murders. It was only a day and he very well may have still been in a state of shock considering what he felt the need to do. In fact, who knows how long he was in that basement afterwards. If he thought more were upstairs he may have been downstairs all night staring at the staircase.According to the Morrison County Sheriff's Department, someone called authorities on Friday afternoon reporting suspicious activity. When police arrived at the home on the 1400 block of Elm Street, north of Little Falls, the man immediately told them he had fatally shot two people around noon on Thanksgiving Day.
Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.
Who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor.
Who had almost stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol.
And who had personally wet himself, at the Battle of Badon Hill.