I have seen worlds bathed in the Makers' flames. Their denizens fading without so much as a whimper. Entire planetary systems born and raised on the playground is where i spent mosta my days, Chillin out, maxin', relaxin' all cool,An' all shootin some B-ball outside of the school,When a couple o' guys who were up to no good, Started makin' trouble in my neighbourhood, I got in one little fight and my mum got scared, She said 'You're movin with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air!'
There isn't enough Muslim ran nations over there for them to join one?
sometimes a pictures worth a thousand words
This thread won't end well.
But I will answer honestly and try to explain why the US doesn't want Palestine to be official.
1. Lack of real a government, has a terrorist organization as the primary political party.
2. Every time you hear about Israel taking action, your media fails to mention the preceding actions taken by Palestinians.
3. The official stance of the primary Palestinian government officials, and all the Islamic Terrorist organizations is the removal of all non-Islamic people from the middle east. ie they want to kill every Jew.
4. So the US official stance is to never negotiate with terrorists, and known terrorist associates.
5. By recognizing Palestine means terrorists get an official nation.
There is no way Hamas, Al Qaeda, or any other fundamentalist Muslim group will even come close to that. For you to even consider that what Hamas says to be an actual threat, shows how far gone the propaganda is. These people are refugees with no jobs, weapons from the 70's era soviet Russia, and no financial connections compared to the west.
Because both share a number of foreign policy aims with the US.
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Again, so? Of the 198 member states of the UN less than 15 actually matter in terms of international affairs.
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Yes, and international relations is not a democratic playing field. You cannot fault the US for standing on the side of its proxy's interests.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
israelis just seem in a state of total denial. the world doesnt like what youve done and how you behave as evidenced in a landslide vote depsite israeli/us pay outs and coercion. yet still you dismiss it as everyone else is wrong, you are right. now you are building more illegal settlements in the occupied territories like a petulant child and swing even more opinion against you. wake up, get on with your neighbours and you might get somewhere.
Pulling a Pilate and washing their hands of the issue, most likely. Either that or they finally understand the General Assembly is nothing but a circle jerk for tinpot third world countries of no international consequence.
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There is a difference between denying it, and not caring. Israel's foreign policy is strictly realist; they do what is necessary for the benefit of their state, tempered by the aid they recieve from the United States. Before WWI most of the Great Powers operated under a similar system.
Hence why I find Wilson's legacy truly disgusting.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
You contradict yourself. Israel cannot embrace a realist doctrine and and some bygone historical doctrine at the same time. Before WWI world powers were clinging to Colonialism even as it was in decline.
Israel has no foreign policy. Their sheer reliance on the US for diplomatic and military cover has caused any foreign policy to atrophy. Their behavior has driven away Turkey. But Likud likes to claim new relations with Azerbijan as an improvement. Next they will be telling us the the Czech republic is the New Europe. Who need France, Spain and Germany.
You were right to point out the Colonialism of pre-WWI. It failed and the world abandoned it with good reason.
Its so far from being Realist.
Well to be honest, it was more like a "saving face no".
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And out of these 15 that matter, the majority voted for Palastine to be recognised. So, what exactly are you trying to say? or are you afraid to admit that the US and apparently your opinion too isn't popular in the international stage?
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The wishes of the public here (as far as I know) was to vote yes, voting no would probably result in some sort of backlash at the current conservative party which is why they choose the middle ground.
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It is Didactic being his normal self.