Do you think patch 5.2 raid will be anything BUT Return of the Thunder King?

[Drakoro]

Not really, all things point it to be based around the trolls and the Thunder King having an alliance. It will definitely be the last troll raid though, the Zandalari's last stand.

And yes, there will definitely be more dailies.

[Paulosio]

Dailies ARE retarded, you're just a unique snowflake

Even if you don't like them, it takes about 15-30 mins a day to get through any new dailies they add. I finished with all the original daily factions weeks ago and the operation shield wall dailies (that i'm doing entirely out of choice not because i'm forced) take very little time. Any new faction will most likely take very little time each day too.

[Priestiality]

*lots of whining about gating*

Remember when you had to not only progress to a certain point in a raid, but sometimes go slightly backwards in order to be allowed to experience the new raid content? I bet you don't.

[Grym]

you surely won't be forced to do them except Rep for the Black Prince, which will take some time anyway because the previous quest steps were gated by:
Raid Drops (Sigil of Wisdom / Power)
Farming 6k Valor Points

Which step is that? o.O

[Deleted]

The current one.

I pray we won't get a troll raid. 5-dungeon tops, please. Troll content has been always minor, and that's the way they should it stay. Blizzard will really have to reinvent themselves to produce a troll raid I would like. Zul'Jin it's the only enemy troll out there respectable. The rest are just one step over comic relief for me.

[Redpanda]

i would not be opposed to a troll and thunder king/mogu raids. make it 2 for that matter

[dennisdkramer]

and thats bad why? just because you dont like dailies doesnt mean other people dont and having a daily hub that tells out a story related to the raid is great and plus they already said every patch will have a daily quest hub along with it to progress the story.

this crap about dailies is really getting to retarded levels of stupid at this point especially since at this point all the people who thought they were "required" are done with them

by done with them you mean have to do 45 per week per character for the foreseeable future to get coins?

[HatredAU]

I was thinking maybe a titan / n'zoth raid? They were saying it would be compared to ulduar.

[Deleted]

no they arent there are plenty of people who like the dailies just because YOU decide to do every daily everyday and get burned out doesnt mean there retarded. i dont like pvp and hardly anyone does it does that make pvp retarded?

Pretty sure thats the point, them being called DAILIES and whatnot.
No one likes dailies. Not even Blizzard likes dailies
Might aswell do real work if you like doing dailies.

[Cebel]

and thats bad why? just because you dont like dailies doesnt mean other people dont and having a daily hub that tells out a story related to the raid is great and plus they already said every patch will have a daily quest hub along with it to progress the story.

this crap about dailies is really getting to retarded levels of stupid at this point especially since at this point all the people who thought they were "required" are done with them

I personally dislike dailies, for one reason... and one reason only. That reason being, that as a hardcore raider... they are the ONLY source of the small charms... so I am effectively forced to do dailies, in order to get 90 small charms per week. I do not mind at all that they want to give players options of things to do while their online... but do not FORCE players to do them if they dislike that type of content. ( Dont say dailies are not required, because to be honest.... they are, otherwise as a raider I'm effectively leaving 3 bosses dead every week ).

[MAGAmobile]

Remember when you had to not only progress to a certain point in a raid, but sometimes go slightly backwards in order to be allowed to experience the new raid content? I bet you don't.

Yeah, it was called artificial gating through limited attempts, resistance checks, attuning people through ridiculous chains, and outrageous bugs that made encounters nigh impossible. Thankfully, they don't make as many glaring mistakes now.

[Lumineus]

I was thinking maybe a titan / n'zoth raid? They were saying it would be compared to ulduar.

Don't think it will be N'zoth. Blizz is saving him for the Queen Azshara expansion. More likely they'll be trying to resurrect Y'shaarj, who could end up as a Heroic only encounter.

[meroko]

If it is going to be ulduarish style raid, it HAS to include an old god. The only real candidate would be Y'shaarj. If you have seen the ending to the Klaxxi storyline at exalted, you know that you pretty much are helping a race who worships him. If not him, it has something to do with the eggs down in that room you walked too.

Here is the dialogue from the final quest: (SPOILER AHEAD IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE QUEST CHAIN)


Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: Wakener, your deeds have earned you the trust of the Klaxxi.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: You are to be rewarded. Walk with me.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: We mantid are an elder race. The pandaren you associate with - they are but children. They have their role to play.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: Each cycle, our young swarm their walls. The pandaren slay the weak. The strong return.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: With each generation, we grow ever stronger.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: Before your history began, our empire was vast. We shared this world with our sister kingdoms, Ahn'Qiraj and Azjol-Nerub.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: Our Gods were many, and powerful. We mantid worshipped the seven heads of Y'shaarj.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: Great was the Old One, and terrible was His wrath. He consumed hope and begat despair; He inhaled courage and breathed fear.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: When the usurpers came - the ones you call "Titans" - Y'shaarj was destroyed.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: His last terrible breath has haunted this land ever since, but the shadows he left behind are mere whispers of his former glory.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: I tell you now, because you have earned this warning.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: Your gods are not your gods, outsider.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: If the Old Ones ever return, we mantid will once again stand by their side.
Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver says: The wisest among you will do the same.

[Magpai]

I do hope Thunder King/Troll raid is brought in. Something of a mix of voodoo/mogu/all that kinda stuff.

You mean like Mogu'Shan Vaults?

It's interesting though, how Lorewalker Cho quotes in Mogu'shan Vaults that this is not the last we have seen of Gara'Jal.

You're thinking of Feng.

[a little Kappa]

Secretly hoping for a ulduar sized raid with 1 difficulty which is hardmode and no LFR related to it. 14++ bosses.

A dream which will never be reality

[Dch48]

I hate PvP but it's not retarded.
I hate dailies too and they ARE retarded.
Now what?

Make a poll who liked the Firelands daily hub, make a poll who liked the Argend Tournament dailies, make a poll who likes the Klaxxii brain damaging pile of dailies and we'll see the results Don't talk out of nothing Cheers.

I actually liked all of those, especially Firelands.

[Lokasu]

I actually liked all of those, especially Firelands.

Am i the only one reading it as he liked those 2 better then the brain dead ones in mists? His words not mine ;-)
My self, i only do them when i got spare time, wich is barely once a week, so i wont grow tired of them.

[mutigerguy20]

I would love to see a thunder king/troll raid. I am assuming that if we do get a troll raid, the August Celestials will have a strong role in it. Every other troll raid has been concerned with animal gods and the August Celestials are built in perfectly to be an interesting part of the raid. Seeing the Mogu and trolls corrupt them and having to save them so they can continue to protect panda land would be cool.

[Xucuroz]

Dailies ARE retarded, you're just a unique snowflake

They are, but that doesn't make his point any less valid. Besides, if the 5.1 dailies are anything to go by, they've certainly learned that no one likes the Golden Lotus crap.

[enchanted]

Well I'm expecting anything from blizz, but I hope it doesnt turn out as a disappointment like dragon soul the way they told us it will be all epic and everything and in the end turns out to be shit with 14 bosses or so and rehashed areas