My brother reduced his tenant's rent and made her sleep with him as compensation.

[Doylez]

If she isn't you should be able to report it because its illegal to trade favors for sex, at least in most places on this planet.

unless you're married?

[Deleted]

Why is that a crime? She has the option to refuse and walk away, if she values living there, and her body, higher than what she is offered.

He is paying her to have sex with him. Do you not see anything wrong with this ?

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

He is paying her to have sex with him. Do you not see anything wrong with this ?

If that was all that was happening I would see no problem.

[Ashnazg]

There is also no logical inference that a man flashing you his gun in an alleyway is robbing you, right?

Correct. If a man is flashing you his gun in an alleyway, he is flashing you his gun in an alleyway. If he then asks you for money, you may surmise that he could be robbing you. On the other hand, he could be simply asking for money and showing you his piece for you to admire.

I understand you're no friend to logic, but you should be able to see the difference between an inference that is logically sound and one that is not.

If she isn't you should be able to report it because its illegal to trade favors for sex, at least in most places on this planet.

Prostitution is illegal - where people get paid remuneration for sex. Trading incentives for sex is sometimes illegal, but not universally. Whats more important, you can't prove it, and most courts wouldn't even want to - too small of a fish to fry. Not to mention that cops have a hard enough time busting actual prostitutes - where cash trades hands for sex. Busting someone who gets blowjobs once a week for a rent reduction is so ridiculous its out of the realm of possibility.

He is paying her to have sex with him. Do you not see anything wrong with this ?

On what side? Male for paying, or female for offering?

[Frozenbeef]

That's disgusting...why hasn't a fundraising thing been set up to help her? >.< When that woman got insulted on the bus she got thousands from online donators >.<

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

Correct. If a man is flashing you his gun in an alleyway, he is flashing you his gun in an alleyway. If he then asks you for money, you may surmise that he could be robbing you. On the other hand, he could be simply asking for money and showing you his piece for you to admire.

I understand you're no friend to logic, but you should be able to see the difference between an inference that is logically sound and one that is not.

If you're really going to take the position that a man who is flashing you his gun in an alleyway is not robbing you, then you shouldn't argue. Precedent and human behavior matters a fucking lot. It is not logically invalid to assume that somebody is robbing you if they flash their gun at you in an alleyway due to precedent information.

[Mukki]

Crazy story about OP's brother

It's not rape, but it's very close. Your brother could really use some moral guidance. Also, my heart goes out to the girl who's probably emotionally traumatized and feels she has no other options. Of course, she wasn't forced to agree to this deal (at least I hope not!) so it's not like she's COMPLETELY blameless, though I'd say that the majority (about 85%) of the blame lies with your brother.

I mean, really, that's really low.

[ShadowJester]

Your brother is a piece of shit.

A hundred times this. Your brother should not be allowed in public or to interact with other people. I hope he gets hit in the face with a frigging meteor thats made of super aids....

[Bryntrollian]

This troll shit is still open?

Come on mmo champ that is just a massive fail.

Its not really that much of a troll thread as it is a nice purely hypothetical situation to discuss

[Kuntantee]

I have a brother as well and he can't do this kind of shit as long as I live. He would stop me doing this kind of sick deals too. This might be a hypothetical but such situations exit in real life.

[Deleted]

If that was all that was happening I would see no problem.

So prostitution is okay then ?

[Mukki]

Given OP's past thread history, I can't help but wonder. But I think that might be because I don't want to accept that something like this happens.

It happens all over the world. A lot of women in prostitution are exploited in a similar fashion.

[vadorkon]

So where does your brother live. I would LOVE to pay this guy a visit.

[Mukki]

So prostitution is okay then ?

See, I have no problem with prostitution if it was regulated. Of course, it's a touchy subject since I am strongly against coerced prostitution, which a vast majority of it happens to be. The argument could be made, however, that the exploitative nature of the majority of prostitution stems from the fact that it's illegal, therefore can't be regulated. I mean, you can't report a pimp to the BBB, HR department, or whatever.

[Melt]

Whoever agrees with the guy probably has never had sex before in his life or has never been in a difficult situation in his entire life. I can´t believe Luftmangle is honeslty saying that´s what the girl wants. She is 18!, lost her parents, has to take care of her brother and has no money. And you say she has a choice?

In what situations have you even been in your life, that you consider this being a choice? Do you really say it´s fine to abuse others whenever you get the opportunity to do so? I can assure you that we, people that discuss such scenarios in a forum, are the weakest dogs in this planet and yet you want to encourage the "dog eat dog" habits?

If you want to compare this to a guy than please don´t use the landlady bullshit. 90% of the 18 year old guys would brag about fucking for a living. Compare it to a landlord, compare it to a situation where you would rather die than letting somebody know what you have been forced to do.

[Ashnazg]

If you're really going to take the position that a man who is flashing you his gun in an alleyway is not robbing you, then you shouldn't argue. Precedent and human behavior matters a fucking lot. It is not logically invalid to assume that somebody is robbing you if they flash their gun at you in an alleyway due to precedent information.

You don't have any precedent information, yet you act like you do. Your biases and prejudices are not valid precedent information.

If you're no friend with logic you shouldn't argue. Wait, who am I kidding, the MMO-C community will be reduced to a very small amount of posters then.

And you say she has a choice?

What on earth are you talking about? Are you saying that we (as a society) should automatically subsidize everyone who loses their parents? If so, you may have a point, but you should really argue about it in a thread devoted to socialist governments.

Otherwise, why is the landlord - a third party - automatically supposed to reduce his rent for her for NO REASON other than the fact that she lost her parents?

Let me know when you get back to me with an answer that doesn't violate the basic principles of free market economy.

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

So prostitution is okay then ?

Yeah. The problems with prostitution that currently exist are largely due to it being illegal. In any case, it being illegal isn't going to stop it from happening.

[Bryntrollian]

That's disgusting...why hasn't a fundraising thing been set up to help her? >.< When that woman got insulted on the bus she got thousands from online donators >.<

Because the op didn't specify her name / address

[lockedout]

So my brother recently developed his basement and rented it out to a girl and her younger brother. She's 18 years old and her brother is only 11. Their parents died last year because of a drunk driver. The girl is very friendly, intelligent and attractive. Her brother is a good kid as well. Both of them were raised very well. She just graduated from high school and was planning on going to university. She was actually accepted into McGill University right before her parents died. She decided to put that aside and just work for now because of financial reasons. She's currently supporting both herself and her younger brother (he's in grade 6 right now).

So my brother is 29 and works as a chemical engineer. His own financial situation is great and so he decided to reduce the girl's rent if she were to do some "favours" for him. He agreed to reduce her rent by 60% if she slept with him once a week. I wasn't there when he asked her this but from what my brother told me, she was very reluctant. She's a very sweet young girl who doesn't approach sex casually. Eventually she agreed to doing this because of her financial difficulties.

My brother just told me this yesterday. He says its been going on for the last month and he doesn't plan on stopping. He apparently enjoys his time with her but I don't think that feeling is reciprocated. I noticed that recently, she has been feeling very uncomfortable around my brother. Whenever they are in the same room, she doesn't look at him and appears very nervous and awkward.

I can't help but feel bad for her. As I said, she's a very nice young girl and has gone through alot in the past year. Having to stay strong for her brother after her parents died must have been really difficult. Having to sleep with my brother who isn't exactly an attractive guy (He's almost 300 pounds and hasn't had a girlfriend in his life) must take alot of strength as well. My brother thinks that he's doing her a favour by taking her rent down so much. I don't really know what to feel about this. Should I just back off and let them continue on with this?

FAKE stop trolling.

[Super Friendly Kitty Cat]

Whoever agrees with the guy probably has never had sex before in his life or has never been in a difficult situation in his entire life. I can´t believe Luftmangle is honeslty saying that´s what the girl wants. She is 18!, lost her parents, has to take care of her brother and has no money. And you say she has a choice?

In what situations have you even been in your life, that you consider this being a choice? Do you really say it´s fine to abuse others whenever you get the opportunity to do so? I can assure you that we, people that discuss such scenarios in a forum, are the weakest dogs in this planet and yet you want to encourage the "dog eat dog" habits?

If you want to compare this to a guy than please don´t use the landlady bullshit. 90% of the 18 year old guys would brag about fucking for a living. Compare it to a landlord, compare it to a situation where you would rather die than letting somebody know what you have been forced to do.

I didn't say that is what she wants. I said she is an adult who made a conscious decision to have her rent reduced by having sex with her land lord.

If she had no money, how would she be living there in the first place?

The adult women is a prostitute and the land lord is a "john". Nothing more to this story.