The Sunreavers, at least their leaders, stole what amounts to a weapon of mass destruction in order to give it to their warmonger of a warchief who all-but-openly admits that his goal is not "peace for the Horde" but "dominance for the Horde". Whether all the members were complicit isn't necessarily relevant. It was stated in the quests that Jaina demanded their surrender and that several did, in fact, do so.
At the end of the day, they are a part of an organization that committed a crime, and they could've surrendered or they could've fought. The one's the players are tasked with killing are the latter.
None of this is to say that the Alliance is completely innocent in all this, but I certainly would no longer tolerate the presence of the Sunreavers in Dalaran if I were Jaina.
My hope is that it doesnt derail the negotiations between Lor'themar and Varian. From what I've read of the Horde quest and the dialogue that Lor'themar gives AFTER the purge, he is angry at Jaina, but blames Garrosh just as much.
If you don't like it, go on the internet and complain.
I did not like the quest. Especially as a Draenei. We do not believe in violence.But I still look at those terrified Sunreavers running helpless in the streets of Dalaran, and an implacable force simply teleporting them to be imprisoned. I still look at myself, swords in hand, hacking down any armed resistance and even invading shops to kill the proprietors. This war with the Horde has the very real danger of making the Alliance more like what it fights, and today I did quests that very much felt like those giving the quests had slipped over that line. But let us not pretend that I didn't very much enjoy the turnabout while I was engaged in it.
That being said: I went to confront the elves and they attacked ME as soon as they saw me, w/o even TRYING to negotiate.
I didn't kill the Dragonhawks, I put them to sleep. It's not their fault, since they are animals.
However, when it's me or that elf, I don't have a choice. I have to fight.
Do I think Jaina has gone too far?
Not really.
Everyone who wanted to surrender had the chance to do so and is temporarily detained, until they can be brought to Org. I highly doubt Dalarans prison could support all these Sunreavers for long.
They misused not only Jainas trust, but our trust as well, so keeping them in a position of power is a risk we cannot afford.
Do I think Jaina is a security risk?
Yes.
She needs to be dethroned as Kirin Tor leader, because it's quite obvious that she is overwhelmed by her emotions and no longer a reliable ally in a combat situation.
BTW these questlines really gave me a new respect for Varian. I love how his character has been evolved.
you forget this is work within factions/nations/organizations rather than individuals
the fact that the leadership of the sunreavers could not figure this out the first time proves they are not capable of controlling their organization
during 2008 when banks were fucked up
did u blame who was directly responsible? or the whole organization? did u blame the leader who in many cases had no idea wtf was going on but it made money so it was A-OK?
when a small group of black water mercs killed civilians, was it just them who got the blame? or did tons of contracts in the organization get revoked?
Last edited by GennGreymane; 2013-01-02 at 02:17 AM.
Last edited by Solzan Nemesis; 2013-01-02 at 03:10 AM.
Your wrong there. Arthas did not steal the weapon, it was a small group of rogue sunreavers that stole it.
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however much your trying to spin it, the very same argument comes back right at you for Jaina's actions.
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