You implied a relation between lower freedom and gun rights innit? And i replied their lower position is due to lack of other freedoms, nothing to do with gun rights.
"Eh... look at the position of ones that do have those groups. I doubt it."
You told me to look at the position of countries with pro gun groups and i did (US) and i can see no relation between guns and limits on freedom. Unless the point you're trying to make is that guns lead to anti-homosexual laws, drug and prostitution illegalisation etc. which honestly i dunno.