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He's talking about Moon bases, that's quite a bit different from another lunar landing.
Ah well, you may be right there but my calculations were based off US figures so it might work out differently in Russia.
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Depends where they both are in their orbits. It's 8.3 light minutes from the Earth to the Sun, Mars' orbit is about 1.5 times the diameter of Earth's so it's about 13 light mins from the Sun (averaging its perihelion and aphelion - Mars' orbit is more eccentric than Earth's).
So when Mars and Earth line up on the same side of the Sun they'd be about 4.7 light minutes apart, and when they're on opposite sides they'd be about 21.3 light minutes apart. Of course when the Sun occludes Mars you'd need satellites set up somewhere to bounce the signal around the Sun so it might take even longer (I wonder if Mars' leading/trailing Lagrange points would be sufficiently far out for this to be practical).
And nobody else lives goes without schools, roads, and basic infrastructure either. How exactly is that an argument for excessive taxation of successful people?
Also, if you think all (or even the majority) of your tax dollars go towards those type of things, you are deluded.
Really? My paychecks are taxed. My purchases are taxed. The interest I earn from my bank account is taxed. Your own private sales of your personal items are even technically supposed to be taxed, but I guess the IRS has better things to do than go after anyone who has ever held a garage sale.
Well, i know that in my country, not all income is taxed, but i don't know about others. So i googled it:
Income That Isn't Taxed
1. Disability Insurance Payments
2. Employer-Provided Insurance
3. Gift Giving of Up-to $13,000; Gift Receipt of Any Amount
4. Life Insurance Payouts
5. Sale of Principal Residence
6. Up to $3,000 of Income Offset by Capital Losses
7. Income Earned in Nine States
8. Corporate Income Earned In Five States
9. Inheritance
10. Municipal Bond Interest
http://www.investopedia.com/articles...#axzz2K0HS0uLC
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
Exactly, there is no way to get less income from getting more income, if you had 200.000$ per year and you payed 20%, would you feel frustrated if you got promoted and got your income to 350.000$ per year with 24% tax?
You can imagine it like taxes are smoothing wage growth, without them it would grow like geometric progression.
Last edited by Charge me Doctor; 2013-02-05 at 07:08 AM.
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
it would be nice to add the countery your in. but in the netherlands overtime hours(above 40 hours a week) are taxed more then regular hours. that is why he pays more tax.
but also remember that some bosses pay to much tax for you. so at the end you can get a refund from the tax company.
Ok, looks like i have to google this again. And even if you have got your wage doubled, you are in profit. there is no way to get less money if you are getting higher wage.
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
are you really that narrow minded?
ofc we are free. does the goverment holds you as a hostage? no they don't. don't want to pay the tax? fine go ahead. if you live in box under a random bridge the goverment won't find you.
and dispite of all fees you pay for school/hospital/road toll. they still need the income from taxes. but lets be honest its not as bad as you make out of it.
because what happen if you lost your job? indeed the goverment help you out.
I understand, but i made a mistake when wrote example because didn't used actual tax brackets.
But, actually, there is a chance that you will get less money from increased wage (but i doubt anyone can make that mistake when actual money are involved)
if you look at tax brackets, and count tax for 399.999 per year and 400.001 per year, you will get 259999,35 against 241600,60.
Originally Posted by Urban Dictionary
well dunno what countery you from. but in the netherlands its diffrent(numbers made up)
person A 100k = 20% tax
person B 200k = 30% tax
person C 300k = 40% tax.
person A would pay 20% over 100k
person B would pay 30% over 200K and not 20% over 100k and then 30% over the other 100k
person C would pay 40% over 300k. and not 20% over the first 100k then 30% over another 100% and then 40% over another 100k
Yeah unless your income is coming in in a really weird way, there's no way to get a raise and make less money over all due to taxes.
There's just a lot of flat ignorance among the anti tax crowd.
true. but atleast the dutch goverment also give back at the % of your taxed income. lets lets say i payed 9k interest over my mortgage. then if i payed 30% taxed i will get 30% of 9k back. but if i payed 60% tax i will get 60% of the 9k back.(but they are changing it slowly atm in the netherlands)
I'm in the US.
Person A makes 100k and has 20% tax on that.
Person B makes 200k, that person pays the same 20% on the first 100k then 30% on the next 100k.
Person C makes 300k, they pay 20% on the first 100k, 30% on the second 100k, then 40% on the third.
And, I just looked at the Wiki entry for Income Tax in the Netherlands, and it is the exact same way.
For 2010, income tax for persons under 65 is as follows:
For the part of income up to € 18,218: 2.3%; tax on €18,218 is €419
For the part of income between €18,219 and €32,738: 10.8%; tax on €14,520 is €1,568
For the part of income between €32,739 and €54,367: 42%; tax on €21,629 is €9,084
On all income over €54,367: 52%