Those who Claim People in the Military are Fighting for our Freedom/Defending Us

[Endus]

What makes you think that they don't? The US, England and many other countries are always under a constant threat.

The biggest threats Canada faces, we face due to proximity to and sharing a border with the USA. Not because they're trying to attack us directly. We don't really have major international enemies, dude. Canada has nothing like the "terror alert" system in the US, because we're not under any threat.

[Themerlin]

I am dumbfounded by how much military ideals have been imbeded into the North American psyche, and how much people are willing to defend this military social complex the United States has. I am sure everyone has seen the "Support our troops" sign on cars, and this trully is unbelievable that we would stoop to supporting groups meant for death/destruction (or if we want the masses dichotomous thinking "life/protection") and place stickers similarly designed which support cancer, cardiovascular diseases, etc. It is obvious that without the US military, America would not be the aging superstar of capitalism it is today. To call individual soldiers as murderers, killers, or immoral people is wrong...but....calling their leadership, their ideals and guiding hands by these names, is truth.

Are there any peacekeepers today (after NATO broke international rules, and disregarded UN international standings).....NO. They would not dare call themselves Peacekeepers. What they are today, are defenders of potential capital and wealth, that is all.

I have travelled extensively around the world in the last 30 years, especially in third world countries. Majority of this time was spent in the middle east and africa. I have seen what the armies do to rouse support from their people, calling themselves Freedom fighters, defenders, liberators, etc. What they were doing was supporting the real powers that be on this planet, the well established, hugely influential, and largely ignorant elite.

This is what our soldiers are fighting for. To make others richer and more powerfull. If you are lucky enough to be alongside their war lines, then you would be supporting the elites ideals. These campaigns of fear (Terrorism) are meant to passify the masses, as well as provide new pathways (or reset old ones) for Capitalism to thrive, and in term bring great wealth to the few.

I want to rephrase the original quote

...the Military are fighting for the freedom of the few and defending our enemies from ourselves.

WE ARE GLOBAL...please do not forget that (doing so, you are ignoring 85% of our brothers and sisters on this planet)

[alaeda]

the military fights for freedom of all countries, we freed iraq from a dictator, sure we didnt find any weapons of mass-destruction but we did find mass graves........last count was 42 mass graves with 30,000 plus bodies in them, you can do the math, afganistan we deposed the taliban and now they have a somewhat functioning government.
sure its great that you get to sit on your ass there all-day and whine but the US has never been that way, we take charge and try to do what is right[COLOR="red"]

North Korea has had 3 generations of dictators and we know for SURE they have weapons of mass destruction, millions of people are starving while their government spends money on their military. Why the US is still not doing anything about it?

Because it's in our best interest to not do anything. We never see North Korea to be a real threat. It's just an excuse for us to station troops in Japan and South Korea to watch over China/Russia.

The US doesn't give a damn about freedom in other countries.

[Purlina]

The biggest threats Canada faces, we face due to proximity to and sharing a border with the USA. Not because they're trying to attack us directly. We don't really have major international enemies, dude. Canada has nothing like the "terror alert" system in the US, because we're not under any threat.

Exactly, if we stopped pissing so many people off we wouldn't have to be worried about being attacked all the time. (Well not as worried anyway)

I think too many people have grown up on GI Joe cartoons...

[Master Jakken]

A really simple question, You have the right to post this garbage, How did you get this right, and who is defending that right?

It certainly isn't the troops in the middle east.

[volkanik]

I would also like to add that Costa Rica disbanded its military shortly after WW2, and put that money towards education. Just this last year (2012), it was voted as the happiest country in the world.

[Scinder]

You're just being rude for the sake of being rude it seems like. It's very hard to get behind anything you're saying when you're insulting someone who brings in a personal account with PTSD in their family. There's an argument to be made for what you're saying, but you aren't doing it any service by insulting people.

I admit that the posters comments have pissed me off quite a bit. Hard for me to respect someone that seemingly has an obvious axe to grind. I believe that everyone needs to show the men and women that serve respect especially those that come home in worse shape than they left. I am in no way disrespecting his family member. I have the utmost respect for those that put their lives on the line and I would treat them as if they were my family. The ones that disrespect or disgrace what we do can go 'diaf'.

[Purlina]

It certainly isn't the troops in the middle east.

Didn't you hear? Saddam was trying to destroy the internet. That's why we had to invade!

Damn that Commander cobra! I mean Saddam...

[Slammin Shaman]

Volkanik, make an erroneous claim like this again and I'll bring an extra dose of Democracy to your nether regions via boot.

[Easo]

Pacifism doesnt work. Simple as that.

[Scinder]

The biggest threats Canada faces, we face due to proximity to and sharing a border with the USA. Not because they're trying to attack us directly. We don't really have major international enemies, dude. Canada has nothing like the "terror alert" system in the US, because we're not under any threat.

Your lax policies on immigration have allowed terrorists to operate within your borders and then they move across the border to the US. You just allow them to operate freely.

Ahmed Ressam ring a bell??

Maybe you should pay more attention to your CSIS.

[Roose]

Pacifism doesnt work. Simple as that.

Huh? Tell Switzerland and Canada....

[Purlina]

Pacifism doesnt work. Simple as that.

No one is arguing for pacifism...

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Your lax policies on immigration have allowed terrorists to operate within your borders and then they move across the border to the US.

Ahmed Ressam ring a bell??

Maybe you should pay more attention to your CSIS.

And where they trying to attack Canada or the US...?

Hmmmm

[Roose]

Your lax policies on immigration have allowed terrorists to operate within your borders and then they move across the border to the US.

That is the US's problem. You refuse to accept the fact that the US's foreign policy creates terrorists. It is not Canada's problem that the world hates us. In fact, it is to Canada's benefit. They are prospering very nicely while the US runs around playing world police.

[volkanik]

The biggest threats Canada faces, we face due to proximity to and sharing a border with the USA. Not because they're trying to attack us directly. We don't really have major international enemies, dude. Canada has nothing like the "terror alert" system in the US, because we're not under any threat.

That's because Canada keeps to themselves unless they are attacked first, unlike their neighbor to the south.

I wish my country was more like Canada or those Nordic countries.

[Mayhem]

Your lax policies on immigration have allowed terrorists to operate within your borders and then they move across the border to the US.

Ahmed Ressam ring a bell??

Maybe you should pay more attention to your CSIS.

well he isn´t wrong, the terrorist you´re talking about had no interest in harming canada... (i´m only guessing you´re talking about a terrorist, as i´ve never read that name befor)

[Swiftyshammy]

What are your thoughts on these people? Every time I hear someone talk about the military and how thankful they are for them for fighting for our freedom and defending our country, I just die a little inside, and seriously want to punch a hole in the wall with my head. No they are not fighting for our freedom, and no they are not defending our country. No country in the Middle East is a serious threat to the United States. Their response: "But we're over there to combat terrorism". Wake the fuck up, terrorists are everywhere. That guy that shot a bunch of kids in that Sandy Hook elementary school, terrorist. That guy that shot all those people in that movie theater in Colorado, terrorist. That guy that shot a crap ton of people in Norway, terrorist. You can not go to a specific part of the world in hopes of combating an idea. It's simply propaganda.

The only time they are defending us is if our country is in danger like when Japan bombed the shit out of Pearl Harbor in WW2.

Since we're name calling...are you not acting like an insurgent?

[Roose]

Since we're name calling...are you not acting like an insurgent?

And people like you are why we can't continue this war on terror bullshit. We will start having a bunch of morons going around claiming others are terrorists.

Why do people want to revisit McCarthyism? Then gain, I guess there were tons of morons supporting him back then too.

US will always have an enemy or they will create one. We are a society based on war. Our economy depends on the military. Of course we paint our soldiers as heroes, because we need people to support what they are doing no matter what.

[Purlina]

Since we're name calling...are you not acting like an insurgent?

Do you know what an insurgent is...?

Are you saying volkanik is talking up arms against a government???


I think we need to move some of our military spending into other things. Like education?

[Scinder]

well he isn´t wrong, the terrorist you´re talking about had no interest in harming canada... (i´m only guessing you´re talking about a terrorist, as i´ve never read that name befor)

That was a name off the top of my head. I am sure 5 minutes of research and I could dig up quite a bit more. Acting like Canada is safe is just silly unless they are OK with allowing terrorist cells to operate within their borders.

If I was a terrorist and had a choice who I would rather cause harm to then ofc the US would be the logical choice but to insinuate that no one cares enough to cause them hard is idiotic. We're just more important. Alone, I am not sure there is any country that would fear Canada.