It happens daily, in fact most people asking for donations aren't being honest about intended use or the extent of their own handicaps one way or another. It's the oldest con/scam. I even fell for it embarrassingly a few times.
I say it's reasonable to get a tad miffed over it when it happens to you, but overall, it's about you, the conned. The scammed, the 'victim'. The ball is in your camp, the control is yours, to STOP being gullible. Just say no. Tell it to their face, what you really think they're gonna do w/ that money, what's really going on in their fake sob story, just tell 'em. It -really- phases them.
You know why it does? Why they don't expect people to wisen up about their bs? Because it's convenient to be gullible for most people. It's less confrontational, more politically correct. More importantly, it's mostly because people often feel guilty. Most people give in a naive hope even when they have doubts about true intentions/whereabouts, simply for their OWN benefit. They crave that "I feel better now, hey, I'm not such a bad person anymore, right? I've given [Who cares if the guy's obviously about to sneak out for a Coors Light in a paper bag the second I'm not looking]".
So how about this, folks. How 'bout you look at yourselves. See that thing that really makes you feel guilty? Is it because of some way you've been treating someone you love? Here's an idea : You could start by fixing that, instead. You won't have nearly as much guilt next time, now that you've gotten to work on your real personal self-pity/doubt.
Don't be a sucker. Don't be a victim - of yourself, of your own demons, in reality. Don't pander to society's losers to feel better about yourself. I do encourage helping, donating. BUT TO PEOPLE YOU KNOW. People you can follow. Friends, relatives, or better yet, organizations that you've done the research on, to see if they send most $$$ inflow to merely support the exhaustive bureaucracy/call centers etc of their NGO, or if they're for real and make a measurable impact in their sphere of humanitarian aid.
The very best thing you can do though, and of course that means it's the most challenging one, is to involve yourself, not just your money. Join an NGO. Found one. Become a program, one without corruption. Be someone's 'twelve step' pillar to be at the forefront of having helped them change their life around from a loser to a successful, functioning person. Then you can be proud of them, and you, for the rest of your life.
Last edited by Planetarism; 2013-04-11 at 03:24 AM.
People chose to give him money and that is the end of it.
Am I the only person who read the thread title and thought it was about how a con man got religion and started walking on water?
He is a huge scum bag, i bet he is shitting his pants right now haha.
I am crack up in my seat right now, that was funny to watch.
Although he still is a horrible person for faking that.
He purposefully conned people into believing he was handicapped, that they were donating him money for things directly related to his proposed handicap (e.g. new wheelchair). Judging by your post I'm guessing English isn't your first language, so here's the definition of the word fraud. Legally, fraud is one of those super-tricky terms that encompasses a lot of things of varying degrees of bad, but basically if some one intentionally deceives a person, company, establishment, the government, ect. the victim can press charges (generally for something like money, as is the case here). In cases like this, the sum of money he conned isn't worth any one taking him to court.
I don't quite care enough, but if you're curious I'm sure you can find plenty of interesting things to read about. Then you could have a clue. :3
Depends on the state. Which state was the guy in the OP from? In North Carolina it's classed as a misdemeanor http://law.onecle.com/north-carolina...aw/14-113.html
Also the reply in regards to the statement in your sig makes the people going on like that look like petty children, and reading the reply in that thread from Darsithis doubly so.
Um...why else would people be donating to him if not for the reason he was handicapped?
if the guy said he needed money for a wheelchair bcuz of health issues then obviously people would donate for that cause. yes true we can't prove why people donate but by using the power logical reasoning it can be supported by the fact that he asked people to donate money for that particular cause. it seems unlikely people would donate for electricity bills, medicare,etc.
Do they directly ask for money for their services? Do they, in any way, use deceit to get that money? Do they say they need that money?
The person in question here said he needed the money for the wheelchair, and requested donations based on that need. Faking a handicap to get money is a misdemeanor in some states and carries a fine if you are found guilty. He is clearly faking being handicapped on multiple streams, and it is obvious he isn't handicapped when he gets up and walks.
Last edited by Theodon; 2013-04-12 at 03:04 AM.
Saying you need a wheelchair and opening a charity are much different.
I haven't seen how he asked for the wheelchair which would make a huge difference.
Did he use the money to buy a wheelchair?
In his stream he is in a wheelchair.
There is no law that says you can't fake a handicap.
Setting up a charity however for a false handicap is illegal.
It really depends how he asked for the money for the wheelchair word for word.
The point is faking a handicap to make people feel bad for you and hope they may donate to your stream due to the handicap it is not illegal.
Faking a handicap and setting up a charity for it is illegal.
There is a law saying you can't fake a handicap for self-gain. I linked it earlier.
http://law.onecle.com/north-carolina...aw/14-113.html