5.3 Blink strikes over Murder of Crows?

[Shootn]

As the topic states anyone know if Blink strikes will pull ahead of Murder of Crows for BM in 5.3 for me it seems like a more flat out damage increes instead of using a cooldown and less buttons to press ofc any thoughts, sims, ideas?

[Deleted]

As the topic states anyone know if Blink strikes will pull ahead of Murder of Crows for BM in 5.3 for me it seems like a more flat out damage increes instead of using a cooldown and less buttons to press ofc any thoughts, sims, ideas?

well...blink strikes buffs fevor and stampede's dmg output :I and less buttons + more "magic" dmg cuz of arcane spam... benetifs mastery and 4p procs...

[eschatological]

I believe the answer is "definitely yes" for BM. Maybe even for SV.

[Trollragemore]

did I miss something somewhere, could have sworn blink strikes is going to be a passive pet ability and not one of our talents?

[eschatological]

I believe (?) it's still a talent. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[Rucati]

It's still a talent, but it's a passive pet ability instead of an activated ability.

And yes, it will probably be better.

[Supakaiser]

On FemaleDwarf.com, Blink Strikes is simming in the ballpark of 85 or so DPS lower than AMoC. Totally worth it imo -- Yes this is with the PTR settings.

[Woobels]

Majority of players will probably gain DPS from it, it's easier to get everything out of a passive pet talent then it is to get everything out of a more 'difficult' ability to use like Crows.

[Zeherah]

The more haste you have, the higher a dps increase it'll be over murder for BM. It scales really well with haste. If it's showing for you as a slight loss I'm guessing you have low haste.

If the results are even close, blink strike is more attractive since it simplifies the rotation and improves pet uptime on multi-target or moving fights. This why even though it's simming as a loss for SV I expect many players will be using it for SV as well.

[Saoron]

even as SV if it's simming ~100 dps lower than AMoC that is in practice a dps increase since as a passive it'll play out perfectly, as opposed to AMoC which we can't always use optimally.. I'm curious to see how this affects the crit vs haste debate for BM.. whether haste > crit will end up on top or not..

[Daetur]

On FemaleDwarf.com, Blink Strikes is simming in the ballpark of 85 or so DPS lower than AMoC. Totally worth it imo -- Yes this is with the PTR settings.

Hear hear. In practice, most human players won't be able to get 100% efficiency out of AMoC, and I think the benefit of more free focus and a slightly simpler rotation will be enough incentive for most to try out the new Blink Strikes- I know I will. It'll probably net a dps increase for all but the most mechanically perfect players if it's simming within 100dps.

[eschatological]

AMoC will still have its uses when you need bursty damage. I'm fine with that.

[Kiea]

For me at 524 ilvl and 6195 haste rating, it's telling me a 430 DPS loss, however depending on the fight, if you can instantly get another AMoC's up on a target (Like Council) therefor avoiding the 30seconds "cooldown" you would have on a single target fight, it would probably pull ahead.

But on another more add heavy fight, or target switching, the damage your pet would gain from the teleport is definitely going to be better.

I also wonder if Dire Beast will be better than Fervor if we don't need the big focus for AMoC's to do a proper opener, meaning it can potentially be better even in scenarios where you get can both of your AMoC's up at the same time, leaving Fervor for burst AoE fights.

[Flidro]

I also wonder if Dire Beast will be better than Fervor if we don't need the big focus for AMoC's to do a proper opener, meaning it can potentially be better even in scenarios where you get can both of your AMoC's up at the same time, leaving Fervor for burst AoE fights.

I'm not sure which spec you are referring to but I don't consider using Fervor as BM. Should I think to myself "I need Fervor as BM," then I'll just go Survival with Fervor instead. Which brings up another point, I use Fervor as SV all the time since it can allow for more Arcane Shots during trinket procs or otherwise reduce the amount of time spent on Cobra Shots. There are other points to be made on the DB vs Fervor argument for SV of course, but I've found Fervor to be optimal for SV.

[Kiea]

I'm not sure which spec you are referring to but I don't consider using Fervor as BM. Should I think to myself "I need Fervor as BM," then I'll just go Survival with Fervor instead. Which brings up another point, I use Fervor as SV all the time since it can allow for more Arcane Shots during trinket procs or otherwise reduce the amount of time spent on Cobra Shots. There are other points to be made on the DB vs Fervor argument for SV of course, but I've found Fervor to be optimal for SV.

I'm on about SV, of course Dire Beast is better for BM, but for survival the reason you want Fervor is - A smooth and good opener to allow for AMoC's, aswell as getting AMoC's smoothly off every time afterwards, as well as allowing for more AoE on demand instead of a more steady and worse AoE.

I honestly think Dire Beast is going to be better in 5.3 even for Survival on single target, it gives 50-60 focus normally, and atleast 60-70 during haste cooldowns, ontop of that it's an extra global, but it does on average 3 times the damage of an AS last time I tested it.

If arguements can be bade for it now, then even though it aint getting buffed, the "need" for Fervor is no longer there, since you will easily be able to still spam AS during your burst, between Rapid Fire, Bloodlust and 2 dire beasts hitting it.

[Deleted]

For me at 524 ilvl and 6195 haste rating, it's telling me a 430 DPS loss,

For me with 526, and 11218 Haste, It shows as a 10.000 Dps increase. Sounds ludacris.

[Megabloks]

For me with 526, and 11218 Haste, It shows as a 10.000 Dps increase. Sounds ludacris.

You probably simmed in the 10% attack power buff to hawk the second time, but not the first.

[Boogums]

did I miss something somewhere, could have sworn blink strikes is going to be a passive pet ability and not one of our talents?

Yea, you missed the patch notes.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/9135374/

Talents
Blink Strike has been renamed Blink Strikes and turned into a passive ability. The pet's Basic Attacks deal 50% increased damage, can now be used from 30 yards away, and will instantly cause the pet to teleport behind their target.

[Drakoes]

I'll definitely be taking the new Blink Stikes over AmOC on fights where I'll be switching targets a lot.

Sure AmOC will still have that on-demand burst, as well as even being able to use 2 of them at the start of encounters where there will be more than 1 target to DPS (such as Twins and Council), but BS should end up being better if there's multiple targets that need to be nuked down asap.

[Deleted]

You probably simmed in the 10% attack power buff to hawk the second time, but not the first.

Indeed i did, I did not believe this for one sec when i saw it. Thanks for the clarification