What is completely ridicolus it is not Benedictus meeting "Katrana", but suppose that he became "corrupted" when he "looked in her eyes" from Vanilla. Furthemore, what utterly invalidate your theory, is that both Nefarian and Onyxia and even Deathwing before Cataclysm didn't had any kind of relationship with the Twilight's Hammer, the Hammer serve the Old Gods, not the Black Dragonflight, and Nefarian (with Onyxia) just followed their own goals and plans. If there was someone that the Hammer served during vanilla, that someone was Ragnaros, a loyal servant of the Old Gods, and Nefarian was in constant war with him for control of the Blackrock Mountain. Any supposed tie between Onyxia and the Twilight's Hammer is pure imagination.
Plus, you think that Benedictus became "corrupted" by looking in the eyes of a "dragon", which is a bad interpretation. Benedictus just talked of "despair", he became desperate by looking in the eyes of this Dragon, not twist-minded. Which was the reason to feel "desperate" to look in the eyes of Katrana/Onyxia? People gives too much importance to that line, that is just a part of the reason of his betrayal, the most important that truly give the ultimate reason is the line that talks of his vision, something that if we saw it as he saw, we would understand him; he never became corrupted, the vision he had, combined with the utter desperation he had when Deathwing came to Stormwind, drove him mad. The corruption it is not even the theme of the Twilight's Hammer, they are not the Burning Legion. They are not corrupted, they are crazy nihilist zealots, they don't want to conquer the world or fall to corruption for gain power and "personal benefits", they just want to see the world burned and the universe be "nothing". For this they don't give a fuck about the Burning Legion or the promises of eternal life of the Scourge. They simply don't care.
And if someone had some kind of attention of the Nodrassil Summit event in the 4.2, Fandral talks of the "Twilight Prophet", and the visions of this prophet was the whole reason for Fandral to be there. This is the reason for which Benedictus became so important in the Cult, and so the deo-facto leader when Cho'gall died.
Which ones? Link them. I'm curious.
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thats EXACTLY how they view the horde, technically the blood elves werent supposed to join the horde the deal was they would support the horde and fight for them until they were able to go to outland and live with kael'thas where they would build a new life in a land "so full of magic the very air is filled with it"
when they got there they found out of course that outland wasnt this heaven on earth filled with magic and then blizzard did something horrible and ruined kael'thas.
so it ended up being a kind of "guess were stuck here" kind of thing
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ummm you do know that nefarian was working WITH the twilights hammer in blackrock right? along with rangaros minions. they were fighting the DARK IRONS for control of the mountain and were trying to convert them and they nearly succeeded since the dark irons went int oa civil war over whether or not to support the twilights hammer.
also deathwing and all the blackdragons have been serving the old gods since deathwing was corrupted by them.
the black dragons the twilights hammer the old gods the fire elementals they were all working with eachother
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Still I think Aethas had a big plans for Dalaraan. We dont even know who he really is !
Why they have removed Halduron anyways ! Isnt war with Zul'Aman Trolls over? I dont trust that Aethas ! I love blood elf people and Characters generally and their lore but that Aethas .... Theres something suspicious about that blood elf.
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You mean to tell me that the most magically inclined playable race in Azeroth wouldn't be able to sniff out a traitor, if Aethas was one? Even if this indeed were true, it would be stupid on Blizzard's part. It is possible, I am just pointing out why it would be futile as a plot.
What if Dalaraan was taking the Artifact when they attacked it? It is not known. But one is obvious. Dalaraan had some interests in this artifact because They arrived in Darnassus either to guard it or Take it. I dont think Dalaraan would go against its neutrality. Jaina hates Garrosh but she knew her job very well. She is not some start up apprentice to make that HUGE mistake and side with Alliance, once more Ill say Dalaraan was neutral back than.
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Aethas is quite powerful mage too so he could hide his Treachery. But not emotionally.
War is deception, a game played best from the shadows!
Completely messed up.
Seriously, you think that Ragnaros and Nefarian, and so the Blackrock orcs and the Twilight's Hammer were all united against the poor Dark Iron dwarves? What?
The Dark Irons were under the complete influence of Ragnaros, the Blackrock orcs served Nefarian, and everyone here used their minions against one another for take control of the Mountain.
The simple fact is that there are too many Blood Elf leaders, and you can't have an all-orc raid.
Lor'themar Theron, Aethas Sunreaver, Grand Magister Rommath, Halduron Brightwing--- Blood Elves are seeming to have more a council than a solid leadership.
Sunreavers betray the Blood Elves as a whole, Blood Elf enemies in Siege of Orgrimmar. I could see similar things happening with factions of other races. A raid where every enemy was an Orc would get pretty bland quickly.
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Umm... No. Jaina warded the Bell and was actively guarding it against multiple intruders. If she was taking it to Dalaran, it would have been there in minutes. It hardly took the Silvermoon mages loyal to Garrosh any time at all to move the Bell from Darnasus, through Dalaran, and into Silvermoon.
"Technically" doesn't mean nothing. They joined the Horde and the Horde helped them, and continue to help them with the Forsaken that support them against the Scourge in their own homeland, and they are supposed to honor the help they received. They only thought about leaving it because of Garrosh and his attitude with them, since Lor'themar saw, in the Garrosh's Horde, the same "bigotry" of the Alliance, and, at this point, between the "two evils", the Alliance maybe was better. But then Jaina ass-raped the Sunreavers and kicked them from Dalaran in a very violent way, so Lor'themar saw them again as a bunch of bigoted that just "faked" a hollow neutrality in Dalaran. So the new solution is get rid of Garrosh, in other words the source of the actual Horde problems and "bigotry".
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But lorewise orcs and orcs alone will make sense in SoO, because they and they alone are building up that zealot supremacist attitude, an attitude that ofcourse kicks in the mouth all the other races. Don't worry, Garrosh is doing a lot of mess under Orgrimmar, there will be a lot of stuff, not just "orcs".
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Another reason for which i think the Kirin Tor are a bunch of idiots, or hypocrities, is the choose of Jaina as their leader. WTF ?
After all she went throught with the whole tragedy of Theramore, utterly destroyed by Garrosh's mana bomb, with anyone living there died in a bad manner and betrayed by a Sunreaver spy, you vote her as leader of your supposed "neutral" city? And Aethas voted her too, further proving that the boy is incredibly naive.
How can you expect her doing to do the right choices as a "neutral" leader? She simply can't. It's impossible. She have too much hatred in her heart for Garrosh.
For this she break her supposed neutrality in the same way the Sunreavers did with the whole Divine Bell matter, he had a compulsive fear that Garrosh was going to do something huge like the bombing of Theramore. But Fanlyr and "his" Sunreavers used Dalaran itself, so let's say they did something a little worse.
Rhonin, then Jaina. Modera and company just love to hide their old asses in the shadows of their leader and take no responsibility to anything.