Japan Osaka mayor says the WW2 "confort women" were necessary

[Laize]

Maybe they don't think of death the same way you do.
Maybe they consider long term psychological trauma suffered over years, or a lifetime is worthy of that punishment.
Maybe they think the level of disrespect a rapist shows their victim is inexcusable, and that the rapist has voided their right to exist.

Hey, pick one.

And maybe I'm glad they don't run anything.

[Stir]

The drugs influence sexual desire, not just the erectile functions...

Yups. Sexual desire. What; do you really think that a stirring of the loins, that can be solved by some quick fingerwork and possibly a porno, is responsible for rape?

[skrump]

So what the dude was trying to say is that if not for the prostitutes the soldiers would of been so sexually frustrated that it would of affected their performance as soldiers thus hindering the overall Japanese war efforts.

But yeah I see the act as being no more barbaric than drafting someone into the military with is essentially what they did but instead of requiring that these women give their lives they only required these women give their bodies to increase the moral of the men who were giving their lives.

Not saying it was right by any means but forcing a women to take a dick is less immoral in my own mind than forcing them to take a bullet.
Not only that but women fighting on the front lines will be raped by the enemy soldiers if captured anyway.

[Deleted]

Necessary? I want to know what planet he's on.

I asume you've been in a war before and obviously know everything about this subject? No? oh... what a shame, now let me share some grandpa stories of my gramps here:

"We used to be very scared, looking forward to things as drinking beer and having sex distracted us from all the dead bodies we had to collect or all the people that had to be shot. I could almost say it was necessary to function normally, it kept one from becoming crazy...although for some people it didn't work."

Now tell my veteran grandpa it wasn't necessary to function normally during war, nor I or him say it was a good thing but it kept the soldiers going. Now I'm not all to much for swearing but you are really a d*ck if you think things weren't necessary to keep one going during a war.

source: my grandpa
I live with him and he speaks openly about these things.

[Deleted]

I asume you've been in a war before and obviously know everything about this subject? No? oh... what a shame, now let me share some grandpa stories of my gramps here:

"We used to be very scared, looking forward to things as drinking beer and having sex distracted us from all the dead bodies we had to collect or all the people that had to be shot. I could almost say it was necessary to function normally, it kept one from becoming crazy...although for some people it didn't work."

Now tell my veteran grandpa it wasn't necessary to function normally during war, nor I or him say it was a good thing but it kept the soldiers going. Now I'm not all to much for swearing but you are really a d*ck if you think things weren't necessary to keep one going during a war.

source: my grandpa
I live with him and he speaks openly about these things.

you can tell your grandpa hes a weakminded scum and that soldiers stronger and better then him took the bullets he deserved. This is if he actually knew he was raping women and not using (whores) he belived was there in ( unforced service)

[Stir]

you can tell your grandpa hes a weakminded scum and that soldiers stronger and better then him took the bullets he deserved.

What; because their granddad looked forward to having a beer and a good fucking to alleviate the stress and fear of the battle field? There's nothing wrong with having a beer and a shag.
Dwargon didn't say their granddad actually raped people... Merely that he thought 'looking forward to sex' was a necessity.

[Mihalik]

I asume you've been in a war before and obviously know everything about this subject? No? oh... what a shame, now let me share some grandpa stories of my gramps here:

"We used to be very scared, looking forward to things as drinking beer and having sex distracted us from all the dead bodies we had to collect or all the people that had to be shot. I could almost say it was necessary to function normally, it kept one from becoming crazy...although for some people it didn't work."

Now tell my veteran grandpa it wasn't necessary to function normally during war, nor I or him say it was a good thing but it kept the soldiers going. Now I'm not all to much for swearing but you are really a d*ck if you think things weren't necessary to keep one going during a war.

source: my grandpa
I live with him and he speaks openly about these things.

And I keep saying there is a substantial difference betwen going to the town brothel dishing out some cash, loading up on booze and spending some time with a prostitue or a girl who just really likes uniforms, and kidnapping women from their homes, and then torturing, raping and mutilating them over and over again, hundreds of times a day.

Yes the Germans did it, the Russians did it and the Allies did it. I am not saying they haven't. But the degree of how widespread it was and how it was handled was very much different. Allied soldiers would risk to be disciplined and possibly even jailed if denounced. If they would have tortured and murdered, court martial was pretty much guaranteed.

Forms must be obeyed and discipline maintained. If you do that, while you cant eliminate abuse, you can limit its effect. But in the case of Japanese comfort women, there was no autorithy to appeal to. There where no rules, everyone had a free reign to act as animals. Even encouraged to do so.

In such a setting you are asking for a disaster to happen. Again this is why soldiers have officers, and discipline and rules etc.

You aren't just trying to protect civillians from them, but you are protecting your soldiers from themselves. From the savagery of the situation they are in. You try to keep them alive and as safe as possible. You dont want them to engage in behaviours that could damage combat discipline or give further reasons to the enemy to fight you and hate you.

Both Germany and Russia for exemple also failed to recognize this simple fact. The behaviour of their soldiers fueled resistance movements and insurgency. And on the long run politically it completly isolated much of Eastern and Central Europe from Russia. Altought they where fighting the Nazis, they very people who would have welcomed them as liberators instead seen them as barbarian hordes, coming from the East being as bad or worse than the Germans.

Beyond the arguement of Human treatment, beyond the arguement of Honor and Law, you have other very serious reasons on why "Comfort Women" weren't necessary, and if anything they where both a strategic, tactical and political blunder on epic scale.

[Laize]

Who says one has to run anything to punish rapists? If I caught one in the act he'd have to give me a pretty damn good reason to not just kill him right there on the spot. I've had recurring thoughts of going after rapists and torturing/killing them after they've served their sentence due to the punishments being a joke in Sweden. Rapists should be put in the ground as soon as possible. If I saw an opportunity to kill a rapist and being able to get away with it, I would take it.

All punishments for all crimes are a joke in most of Scandinavia. Someone remind me how long Breivik will be in prison before he's eligible for review? Sure he almost certainly won't get it, but "almost" is still uncertain.

If you focus so much on rapists maybe you should seek help, though...

[Grizzly Willy]

Do the words "cruel and unusual punishment" mean nothing anymore?

Good thing I don't actually support, nor have I ever stated that I support the "an eye for an eye" style of "justice," eh?

[Aleksej89]

People who commit crimes always try to find reasons they were necessary.

Like Nazi with mass murders, Americans with the Abombs or the native american genocide or the slavery of blacks in the old days, etc etc...

[Deleted]

What; because their granddad looked forward to having a beer and a good fucking to alleviate the stress and fear of the battle field? There's nothing wrong with having a beer and a shag.
Dwargon didn't say their granddad actually raped people... Merely that he thought 'looking forward to sex' was a necessity.

next time read and quote the entire sentence ty.

[GennGreymane]

Worst possible thing for a Japanese politician to say. especially in that political climate.

[MerinPally]

Everyone did it. Everyone knows its wrong and it's not like people aren't aware it happened. Hell, we even had a band called Joy Division which was the German version of this which the japanese called Kippunjo or something very similar. Only difference here is everyone knows not to talk about it because you're only going to make enemies, there's noone out there saying "Wasn't it fantastic why didn't we keep it after the war", so whilst you know it's there you just shut the fuck up about it and let it stay in the annals of history.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

People who commit crimes always try to find reasons they were necessary.

Like Nazi with mass murders, Americans with the Abombs or the native american genocide or the slavery of blacks in the old days, etc etc...

And yet people love to bring old stuff up just to hate on us.