I want the Horde to go back to their noble roots, with Thrall at the helm and..
No, I'm kidding. I like the prospect of continues war.
I want the Horde to go back to their noble roots, with Thrall at the helm and..
No, I'm kidding. I like the prospect of continues war.
Generally despised means lorewise. the players aren't mentioned with a single word. And Garrosh has done a lot to piss the other Horde races of. Also, they might remember what happened the last time when Orcs went for World Dominance.
ATM I play a warlock. While I would certainly side with the rebellion - I can't help but feel its wrong for my character as a warlock. After all - isn't the whole theme of the warlock exactly the same as Garrosh's motivation? Power at all cost?
I'd also back up the claim that Garrosh's story in MoP has been appalling in its telling. What they did with him in Cataclysm; aggressive yet making strides, learning and changing was much smoother than what they have done in MoP which feels like an abrupt about turn. Some of it has worked - especially if you read the pre-mop Jaina book - but it doesn't feel like it was their original plan when they initially decided to make Garrosh warchief. It looks like they were influenced by all the backlash over him becoming warchief but because of the length of development cycles, couldn't react to it until MoP and it didn't sit we'll with what they had already set up.
Sometimes you should listen to your customers - when it comes to storytelling, I don't think you ever should. At least until you have completed what you initialised.
he sure as hell wsnt a villian though back then
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Partly ruthless, but only party "honorable" thats why I loved him in Cata
He was agressive and headstrong, but still countless cases where he bitched at things/people for fighting in ways he didnt agree
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
I side with the rebellion, even though I think they copped out because they tried to sell us Garrosh as a relatively good guy when they switched out Thrall, then 180'd on that. And why the rebellion? It has to do with the RP I do in my brain that I never share with anyone, especially since I'm not even on an RP server so it would be weird, but I play a Blood Elf and this seems like a good chance to get Lor'themar a little higher up there in political power.
War can continue, but I prefer the political games and subterfuge.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Also, it's should HAVE. NOT "should of". "Should of" doesn't even make sense. If you think you should own a cat, do you say "I should of a cat" or "I should have a cat"? Do you HAVE cats, or do you OF cats?
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Ssshh. Listen.
Do you hear that? Footsteps.
Trassk is approaching.
Quite wrong you are there op.
Garrosh only wants to wage war, Thrall only wants peace and prosperity for his race. And garrosh is about to destroy it all, turning horde back into the demonic force they once were...looping them all over again to life of hatred, deceit and slavery.
Like garrosh has said in mop that he wants to use every possible asset to make horde more powerful...so hes guldan all over again, if a demon came by and offered him a chalice of blood that empowers the orcs he would definetely drink it.
And that my friend, is very dangerous to the world itself. And peaceful society thrall and jaina had made was destroyed. The old hatreds were dying out until garrosh stepped in and all but declared war against the alliance.
This is not about deathwing or lich king trying to destroy the world... but the horde is becoming the demonic force they once were because of garrosh, for horde its about not repeating the miserable history, losing themselves, and for the alliance its about survival.
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"
Varian is universally despised by Alliance players. :P
And they cancelled the storyline that was supposed to make us like him because the "A Little Patience" scenario was badly received. Not because of the lore like they insist but because of the horrible execution of the mechanics in the scenario.
For the topic at hand, we knew this was going to happen since they announced the end boss. As for lore reasons for the Horde races to hate him:
Orcs: A. He tried to assassinate Vol'jin, angering Thrall, who will rally the orcs who remain loyal to him. B. Chances are he'll try to kill Thrall in Orgrimmar, pushing the non-kor'krons onto the Rebellion's side.
Trolls: Garrosh tried to assassinate Vol'jin.
Tauren: Garrosh tried to assassinate Vol'jin and kill Anduin. (Whom Baine regards as a brother)
Forsaken: Do they really need a reason?
Goblins: He doesn't pay them the amount he promised for digging up Y'shaarj's heart.
Pandaren: Ji has never agreed with Garrosh's segregation.
Blood Elves are the only wildcard. I assume it has to do with the fact Garrosh is the main cause behind the Sunreaver situation, by having the Sunreavers betray the Kirin'tor in the first place. Lor'themar also seemed a bit... disturbed by the news Garrosh tried to have Vol'jin assassinated.
He had a lot of potential which they fucked up right during the Pre wrath event. He went from EMO boy to ROAR IMMA WARCHIEF BETTER THAN YOU.
He has bounced between raging twat to "honour never forsake it" to "enslave these beasts force them to fight oh lets slaughter some poor sailors who ran aground and let some live to tell the tale" oh and now we get "lets bomb them with this super weapon in the same way I dismissed my own general for doing so in the last expac)
guys a fucking trian wreck of writing. They wanted a young orc who could be a warrior hero for horde players and they ended up making a mess of him.
I can't wait to loot this twats head and present it to the REAL warchief. Zug zug thrall zug zug.
We have faced trials and danger, threats to our world and our way of life. And yet, we persevere. We are the Horde. We will not let anything break our spirits!"