Grom Hellscream
- Long lean hair
- Green Skin
- Gullible
- Not very intelligent
- Good Heart
- Redeemed
Garrosh Hellscream
- No Hair, completely bald
- Brown Skin
- Evil
- A cunning mastermind
- Black Heart
- Irredeemable
Grom Hellscream
- Long lean hair
- Green Skin
- Gullible
- Not very intelligent
- Good Heart
- Redeemed
Garrosh Hellscream
- No Hair, completely bald
- Brown Skin
- Evil
- A cunning mastermind
- Black Heart
- Irredeemable
"The Naxxramas Warrior. Eternal slayer of the Orcs."
I've thought the same thing since he got his unique model in Wrath, I think it may be that they're trying to show that Garrosh is trying to be like Grom (Gorehowl, Jaw Tattoo etc.) but at their core, they're very different people (Garrosh: Bald and Bulky, Grom: Long Hair and Lean) Then again we could both be looking WAY too far into it and they just wanted to make Garrosh look cool, but hey, who knows.
although I wouldn't say that Grom wasn't intelligent, he may not have been Tactician of the year, but he was very intelligent in his own field, gullible maybe, but someone you didn't want to cross.
Last edited by Wildberry; 2013-05-25 at 09:30 AM.
Garrosh is nothing but a poor mash up of several different writers (both novel and in game) without sense of any direction which is obvious for the constantly self-contradicting character shifts until the "well people didn't buy it so lets just make him evil in MoP" shit.
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"People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an excercise of power, are barbarians" - George Lucas 1988
NO....just no!
Ra-den could be excused, because there's no mention of it, except in Lorewalker storytelling and even there it's a nameless silhuate.
But we have ALL seen Y'shraaj's remains, so to have it being included for Heroic Only, would fak up the story... like Ragnaros differance between Normal and Heroic, which FORCES you to play heroic mode to see the TRUE ending; which wouldn't sit well with those who raid just for fun or those who only use LFR, because it would leave a HUGE plothole.
A cunning mastermind?! Compared to a bowl of jelly perhaps, otherwise; NO.
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I'm not to sure you can just put Grom down as being 'just good'. He wasn't evil, but he wasn't overly good either. He was very much on the fence, tilting between good and bad, learning honor, but then becoming corrupted and easily tempted by power.
#boycottchina
They are still very much alike, both would do anything to win for example, they thirst for combat and war, both regard humans equally low etc.
Garrosh was developed to be God knows what since Blizzard had to give him like 100+ personalities. In a nutshell, he's a failed experiment.
You know the thing I've always found so ironic with the Garrosh, Grom and Jaina angle? Its how in WC3, after Grom drinks demons blood a second time (so he clearly didn't learn his lesson the first), and become fel orc, its Jaina using her magic to contain his soul in a soul gem, allowing the demonic hold to be broken on him, and return him to normal.
Jaina saved his ass, and yet years later, Groms own son destroys theramore aimming to kill her. She saved his fathers soul, which who knows what hellish afterlife he could have gone to if she hadn't, and this is what Garrosh does to her.
#boycottchina
I have said it before, Garrosh is nothing but Grom in a position of power. Hell, Vol'Jin even says he would gladly fight side by side with Garrosh, but when he is put on top he changes. Grom was never given this complete power, he was only a Chieftan to one clan. And even then, he wasn't commanding them to plant trees and give food to the starving; Everything he commanded them to do involved wholesale slaughter, and drinking a demons blood. Twice.
Garrosh is exactly the same as his father. Grom'S only saving grace is killing mannoroth. Without it, he is a big damn criminal.
Straightforward and shallow. Yeah some characteristics are obviously opposite, like the (actual) physical traits, but looking at Grom as the "opposite side" of Garrosh is wrong. They share A LOT of traits, Garrosh is not evil, like wasn't his father, both had a naive and a little malleable personality, an harsh and impetuos attitude, and all of them cared about honor, until at some point they had the fateful englightenment that
Power > Honor
The only real difference between them is their personal and different lifes, and the fact that they had different positions and had completely different responsibilities. Furthemore, Grom had a natural and spontaneous pride by himself for himself, his clan, his race and so on, but he discarded much of it deciding to become a slave of the demons, only for get more power; Garrosh instead is discarding all BUT his pride, because his pride is unnaturally boosted by the thought of his father being a great hero, that his "eyes are upon him", and so he belives that he's doing what his father would have wanted.
The irony is that since he doesn't essentialy knows a fuck about his father, he have no idea of what the said father wanted or not, and so he's just following his "Hellscream nature" and leading the Horde into a sinkhole, just gathering immense power with no slavery this time, and so the will of his father is fullfilled. Sure bro.
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Yeah the irony is powerful. But what it's far more ironic is that Garrosh, if he would knows this fact, would never admits that a human saved his father's soul because the said father commited the same mistake like an idiot. He would even wants to kill her with even more desire, for erase the living proof of this "shame" for his father. He's absolutely twisted and corrupted by his insane pride.
Last edited by Zulkhan; 2013-05-25 at 09:26 PM.
Garrosh a mastermind? Have you done the horde twilight highlands intro? What a dumbass he is...just watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQyqwiiSOUc the important part starts at 2:40.
People seems to forget that the only reason for which Deathwing and his pack of Twilight Dragons showed up was because Garrosh had a traitor in his ranks (Sauranok) like the Alliance, but the storylines worked differently, with the Alliance killing the traitor before the trip in the Twilight, and the Horde after.
For the rest that situation proved as other times his arrogant and reckless attitude, but people regarded it like if was OBVIOUS that suddenly Deathwing himself and his dragons came from nowhere and attacked them, while that was the work of a traitor in Garrosh's ranks revealing their position, and Garrosh in the end of the event in the Twilight understood by himself with no additional hints that all that shit situation was caused by someone betraying him, and went to Orgrimmar to find and kill the said traitor.
So no, we can say a lot of things about Garrosh, that sometimes make him LOOKS LIKE an idiot, but he's not in the end, he's even clever and cunning until, well, his retarded pride doesn't blind his reason.
Yeah, his retarded pride, I wasn't talking about the twilight dragons alone, obviously it wasn't Garrosh's fault that the twilight dragons showed up, but it was his fault for sending his fleet to battle the alliance and left himself unprotected, and that almost resulted in his death.
...you do realize that Garrosh Hellscream is the son of Grommash Hellscream, right?
Fathers and sons tend to have some differences between them..